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Wis. group drops stray cat-killing plan
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 5/13/05 | Robert Imrie - AP

Posted on 05/13/2005 5:55:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

MANITOWOC, Wis. (AP) - A month after Gov. Jim Doyle said a plan to allow hunters to shoot stray cats was making Wisconsin a laughingstock, the public advisory group that raised the issue decided Friday to let it die.

"There is no need to push it any further," Wisconsin Conservation Congress chairman Steve Oestreicher said of a proposed change to allow licensed hunters to shoot feral cats that kill songbirds and other wildlife. The proposal ignited a firestorm among animal rights groups that called it inhumane and dangerous - and raised the specter that hunters would shoot cats that had only wandered from their homes.

Still, 57 percent of those at the Conservation Congress' meetings in all 72 counties last month favored the idea, which supporters said would let people deal with nuisance stray cats.

Members of the Conservation Congress advise the state Natural Resources Board and the Department of Natural Resources, according to its Web site.

Delegates at the group's convention in Manitowoc voted Friday to recommend the change to the Natural Resources Board, but the group's executive committee decided against it. For the proposal to become law, it would need legislative approval and Doyle's signature.

"The governor has indicated he would never sign a bill," Oestreicher said. "It's time to let it go."

The La Crosse firefighter who proposed the idea, Mark Smith, complained the advisory group caved in to animal rights activists. But he said he won't pursue the issue.

"I think it is wrong that these activists hold such power as they do," he said in a telephone interview. "The politicians are all scared of them and lay down. I am one little guy who was looking to change something. It is not about animal cruelty, it is about individual landowner rights."

Jessica Frohman, a spokeswoman for a Maryland-based group called Alley Cat Allies, hailed the decision. "I think cat owners and pet owners are going to be just as happy," she said.

Some estimates indicate 2 million wild cats roam Wisconsin. South Dakota and Minnesota allow wild cats to be shot.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: animalrights; cats; hunting

1 posted on 05/13/2005 5:55:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Wisconsin gives up on maintaining and protecting the songbird population, while Governor is heard to mutter "just a bunch of dam*ed dinosaurs anyway" as he vetoed the feral predator disposal act.


2 posted on 05/13/2005 5:57:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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About the .. Wisconsin Conservation Congress
3 posted on 05/13/2005 5:58:35 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Darn. There was about 20 soldiers who were heading there to hunt cats just as soon as they got off the plane coming back from Iraq.


4 posted on 05/13/2005 6:00:32 PM PDT by Modok
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To: muawiyah

Here in my part of Ohio, I just "shoot, shovel, and shut up". Unless I'm on my rural property. Then I just fling 'em in the bushes.Oops! Now the cat lovers are gonna get me...


5 posted on 05/13/2005 6:31:33 PM PDT by chadwimc
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To: NormsRevenge

Whew! Now we can just be a laughingstock because of Diamond Jim's refusal to allow photo I.D. in the face of massive voter fraud. (while recently signing a bill that requires photo I.D. to purchase OTC cold medicine). Well I sure feel better!


6 posted on 05/13/2005 6:34:24 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Celebrating 20 years of wedded bliss on 4/20/05. I have much to be thankful for!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Good. I want to see cat hunters remain where they belong. In jail for a long, long time. Or at least paying a fine that is severe. A man of kindness to his beast is kind.


7 posted on 05/13/2005 6:34:47 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: NormsRevenge
Shoot, shovel, and shut up. That goes for the endless army of raccoons which eat my chicks, eggs, corn, garbage, and the skunks which eat my bees, eggs, and dig up my lawn for grubs. I could shoot ten a nite for a month and not even make a dent. At sunrise, it looks like coon rush hour around here.

Last year the mountain dew approach was the only thing that reduced the numbers signifigantly.

8 posted on 05/13/2005 6:41:58 PM PDT by blackdog (How are the ones and zeroes treating you today?)
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To: mysterio

I'm a rural Wisconsin farmer. I've got all the cats the cat lovers abandon. Getting em spayed at $150 a copy or nutted for $75 is a real joy. Current population around the house/barns is about 18+/-. I think my wife gets pissed and tosses a bag of catfood in the field accross the road from us without comment. The traffic culls the fat greedy ones.


9 posted on 05/13/2005 6:48:38 PM PDT by blackdog (How are the ones and zeroes treating you today?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just round them up and give them to PETA. PETA kills a few thousand of them every year at their offices in Virginia.


10 posted on 05/13/2005 6:53:51 PM PDT by perfect stranger (I need new glasses.)
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To: perfect stranger
A cardboard box and some bird shot/magnum out of a 12 gauge is a lot quicker and kinder than gassing them like PETA does.

There was an old lady up the road from us who had an old farmhouse she abandoned and moved into town. She would stop by every day and feed the cats. Over the years their numbers went into the hundreds. Then feline leukemia ravaged the herd. Dead cats everywhere. The county then came in and trapped the ones not showing illness and euthanized them.

11 posted on 05/13/2005 7:03:22 PM PDT by blackdog (How are the ones and zeroes treating you today?)
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To: blackdog

I live in rural Indiana. There are tons of cats here as well. I either feed them or I don't. Haven't found the need to murder any roving animal yet, though. I have about 3 families of bunnies in my yard, preventing me from having a garden. I've tossed them some lettuce, but they still don't trust me quite yet.


12 posted on 05/13/2005 7:12:34 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: blackdog

My daughter was bitten by a beautiful tomcat one of those "cat lovers" dropped off to "live out his days in the country". I was never so mad. OSU wanted a certain part of the cat to check for rabies. I was more than happy to oblige their quest for kitty parts. Cats are evil creatures...


13 posted on 05/13/2005 7:15:00 PM PDT by chadwimc
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To: chadwimc

The trolls on free republic certainly think the kitties are evil. One of my best friends is a cat, however.


14 posted on 05/13/2005 7:16:26 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: NormsRevenge
"The proposal ignited a firestorm among animal rights groups that called it inhumane and dangerous..."

It ignited a firestorm in me and I absolutely despise animal rights groups. I am not an environmentalist, but I am a conservationist. There is a huge difference.

Every post I made on this subject was written from the perspective of a hunter and an advocate of hunter's and gun owner's rights. Even a complete moron should be able to see the risks evident in promoting a hunt of feral cats. The animal rights crowd would have had us for lunch.

If you love songbirds so much, go ahead and shoot cats in the wild as you see fit. SSSU. But don't ask for a season on them. Such a request will only mar the hunters legitimately pursuing their sport.

I hate cats; I really do, but this hunt was insane.

15 posted on 05/13/2005 7:17:45 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: flashbunny

FYI. The irrational cat cult has won.


16 posted on 05/13/2005 7:19:46 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: blackdog
I was being sarcastic.

That's a sad situation with that old lady and the cats. She certainly wasn't helping them by feeding them every day like that on a large abandoned property. It sounds like she should get the blame and the county bill for putting them down.

17 posted on 05/13/2005 7:20:54 PM PDT by perfect stranger (I need new glasses.)
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To: mysterio
It's simple: less feral cats = more birds.

You must like cats much more than birds.

18 posted on 05/13/2005 7:21:48 PM PDT by Max in Utah (By their works you shall know them.)
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To: Max in Utah

and the various diseases they carry, which makes it more likely these peoples' precious house cats will come in contact with them and get sick.

But hey, let's not use logic on the situation. It's for the kittens.


19 posted on 05/13/2005 7:23:45 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: mysterio
Haven't found the need to murder any roving animal yet, though. I have about 3 families of bunnies in my yard, preventing me from having a garden. I've tossed them some lettuce, but they still don't trust me quite yet.

Don't worry. The cats will "murder" your bunnies quite efficiently, though you may be awakened by the terrible screams they emit while being tortured to death.

The cats seems to find the screams quite amusing.

I find it amusing that people say that hunters should not kill feral cats because it is "murder", but have no problem with the cats themselves, who "murder" for sport many times their own number. If the cats were killed, far less creatures would be "murdered".

20 posted on 05/13/2005 7:25:36 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: NormsRevenge

The title to this article should be: Wisconsin Group Drops Plan to Save Birds


21 posted on 05/13/2005 7:27:09 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: mysterio
I live in rural Indiana. There are tons of cats here as well. I either feed them or I don't. Haven't found the need to murder any roving animal yet, though. I have about 3 families of bunnies in my yard, preventing me from having a garden. I've tossed them some lettuce, but they still don't trust me quite yet.

Your post sounds like some of the confused callers on C-span. If you have tons of cat's you do not have families of bunnies. Cat's seem to want to kill them, however, maybe you have vegie cat's.

22 posted on 05/13/2005 7:28:07 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: yooper
But don't ask for a season on them. Such a request will only mar the hunters legitimately pursuing their sport

You bought into the anti-hunter propaganda. They were *NOT* asking for a season on cats, just lifting the special protection that wild roaming cats had been given in the last few years.

As I recall, a decade ago, it was legal for anyone (not just a hunter) to shoot feral cats in Wisconsin. As a non game exotic species, they had no legal protection other than that afforded by being someone's property.

23 posted on 05/13/2005 7:33:55 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Max in Utah

No, I like birds, too. Birds can fly. Cat's can't. And last I heard, you can shoot birds. So I must assume you support the banning of shooting birds as well? Since you are a bird lover, I mean.


24 posted on 05/13/2005 10:46:32 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: marktwain

Actually, cats have never bothered my bunnies. That's mostly been left up to the dogs. Shall we shoot the dogs?


25 posted on 05/13/2005 10:47:33 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: org.whodat
I have never seen a cat effectively attack a bunny. Yes we have tons of cats here in rural Indiana. And yes, I have several families of bunnies in my yard.

I have noticed that people who torture cats have a tendency to grow up to become serial killers. And then the state gets to put them to death. I certainly approve of that. The state putting them to death, that is. Perhaps we should put them to death before they start murdering humans. Cat cruelty seems to be a reasonable indicator of danger to humans.
26 posted on 05/13/2005 10:53:55 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio
Actually, cats have never bothered my bunnies. That's mostly been left up to the dogs. Shall we shoot the dogs?

In Wisconsin, the law used to be that you could shoot dogs that were running loose. I don't know if that is the law in Indiana or not. Certainly, I would defend your right to protect your livestock.

27 posted on 05/14/2005 5:27:28 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
I've got a guardian dog imprinted on my sheep since weaning as a puppy. He'll kill any creature of any species that gets near his sheep. He's taken on bears, coyotes, wolves, whistling pigs, and raccoons. The bear and wolves managed to escape. A DNR warden had to be rescued from a tree.

Neighbors who shoot deer and have to track my farm to find them have definately understood they have to call me first. Sheep stomp their foot when threatened. I've stomped my foot on the ground a hundred yards from the dog, sleeping, and he's instantly awake and listening for anything.

28 posted on 05/14/2005 11:38:33 AM PDT by blackdog (How are the ones and zeroes treating you today?)
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To: NormsRevenge

In other news many Asian restaurnants are forced to have a drastic change in plans.


29 posted on 05/14/2005 11:44:11 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: mysterio
I have never seen a cat effectively attack a bunny.

Well that just tells me you haven't seen much.

30 posted on 05/14/2005 7:44:08 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: mysterio

I don't believe in torturing cats, I believe in shooting them efficiently. I think the people who want cruel and unusual punishment, or any legal problems at all, for people who shoot pest cats, are cruel and dangerous people!

If you want people to go to jail for shooting a stupid cat, or if you think animals that shit at will, don't work, don't support human causes, don't respect property, and eat peoples garbage should have "rights" you are a real sicko and should be put in the nut ward! HOW BOUT THEM APPLES?


31 posted on 05/19/2006 7:52:30 AM PDT by GreatWallofTexas (Animals don't have rights)
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To: blackdog

re: Mountain dew. What is this? A poison trap? Antifreeze? I support cat hunting. email me for web page huntcatsonline


32 posted on 05/19/2006 7:54:35 AM PDT by GreatWallofTexas (Mountain dew approach)
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To: NormsRevenge

Don't they have Animal Control to rounds up strays and ferals in Wisconsin?


33 posted on 05/19/2006 7:54:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mysterio

If your best friend is a cat, you need social interaction with humans to unwarp your brain. You might end up one of those delusional elderly people who run off all would-be human friends with the stench of their cat infested lairs.


34 posted on 05/19/2006 7:56:03 AM PDT by GreatWallofTexas (Mountain dew approach)
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To: NormsRevenge

All they need is more Oriental restaurants.

End of cat problem.


35 posted on 05/19/2006 8:05:19 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: GreatWallofTexas
If your best friend is a cat, you need social interaction with humans to unwarp your brain. You might end up one of those delusional elderly people who run off all would-be human friends with the stench of their cat infested lairs.

Jerk! lol

One might point out that if you are a person who has a great desire to go tearing around shooting stray cats, you might be a little socially backwards yourself.
36 posted on 05/19/2006 1:19:30 PM PDT by mysterio
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