[Dane]

I probably would fall into that group, I call them "Pittsburgh Democrats (which I am on my father's side)

IMO, that's not exactly something to be proud of, considering that the democrats have run Pittsburgh for the last 70 years, and the city and Allegheny county is an economic basket case.

[Nowhere Man]

IMO, that's not exactly something to be proud of, considering that the democrats have run Pittsburgh for the last 70 years, and the city and Allegheny county is an economic basket case.

Yeah, I used to blame the Democrats for al ot of the messes but when I take a look back, I see more as collusion of special interests and the "good old boy" network in the party itself. The Republicans are not immune either to the same problems. Basically when the movers and shakers of any political group get so entrenched, they don't care for the average person anymore. It reminds me of the story where Chicago was so corrupt, Al Capone was seen as more caring to the average person than the Cook County Democratic Machine.