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To: nj26
Hillary could not be doing more for conservatives than she has been. She is allowing the conversation to move steadily towards the right in an effort to appear moderate. The Dem's will be running in the same direction to keep up for 2008. This could not be better for the conservatives.

Don't worry, she will lose by 3.5M votes as well. The battle lines are drawn. We outnumber them.

Ask yourself which is better, Hillary lending support to immigration enforcement or trying to socialize another private industry?

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5 posted on 05/15/2005 10:15:50 AM PDT by Believe_In_The_Singularity
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To: Believe_In_The_Singularity

"Don't worry, she will lose by 3.5M votes as well. The battle lines are drawn. We outnumber them."

I don't believe that. I think there are a lot of voters who don't pay much attention, and don't have strong beliefs. I know a lot of people who voted for Clinton, and then switched to Bush.

I just wouldn't be confident. You're implying that we don't even need to try.


9 posted on 05/15/2005 10:20:22 AM PDT by nj26
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To: Believe_In_The_Singularity
Don't worry, she will lose by 3.5M votes as well. The battle lines are drawn. We outnumber them.

You have her losing, and you don't even know who she will be running against.

The empty suit John Kerry almost won. He garnered some 60 million votes. He lost the election by 1 state -- Ohio. If you think 08 will be less of a contest just because Hillary is the nominee, you will be one of those rushing for the therapists couch if she wins.

So far, none of the GOP names in circulation would win against her. Like it or not, she has name recognition, she has a powerful political machine that has been in place for years, she has MSM, and she has numerous GOP top names fawning all over her. What more could any candidate hope for? 08 is hers to lose -- both the Dem nomination and the general election -- unless the GOP offers better than most the name currently in circulation. 08 will not be much different than 96.
12 posted on 05/15/2005 10:24:44 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Believe_In_The_Singularity
Don't worry, she will lose by 3.5M votes as well. The battle lines are drawn. We outnumber them.

The liberal media almost got Ho Chi Kerry elected. They'll triple their efforts to get Hillary elected in '08.

16 posted on 05/15/2005 10:28:53 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Believe_In_The_Singularity
Don't worry, she will lose by 3.5M votes as well. The battle lines are drawn. We outnumber them.

When the issue is cultural values, Democrats lose. When the issue is economic populism, Democrats win because they are very, very good at presenting themselves as the party that will protect Joe Sixpack from "fat cat special interests". Like the free trade open borders types.

Religious conservatives are a lot of Joe Sixpacks who have blue collar economic interests. Their parents and grandparents were New Deal Democrats and their great grandparents were William Jennings Bryan Populists. If Hillary can convince them that she respects red state values and mores (she did after all live in the Arkansas governor's mansion) and won't pack the judiciary with sodomite loving activists they will listen to what she has to say.

44 posted on 05/15/2005 11:04:22 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Believe_In_The_Singularity

Hillary is doing nothing for conservatives. However, the Bush family is going all out to see that she will be elected in 2008. Whoever runs on the Republican ticket will be a sacrificial lamb.

Let me spell it out for you. Politicians say things they do not mean, do not believe in, and will not follow through on. What they say is designed to sway the voter, and it works. What they do or do not do in office is quite different.

The U.S. has open borders and is moving rapidly toward 3rd world socialism, which better serves the power and money lust of the oligarchy.


62 posted on 05/15/2005 11:20:04 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Truth is a rare commodity. Seek it, know it and cherish it.)
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