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The ACLU campaign to advance communist goals - (Christian landmarks,heritage dismantled & more)
THE AMERICAN THINKER.COM ^ | MAY 15, 2005 | WILLIAM J. BECKER, JR.

Posted on 05/15/2005 3:23:55 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: brivette

I know who Kate Capshaw I just don't know what sexuality has to do SS who's as modest about the subject as any contemporary filmmaker. BTW she has converted to Judaism.


51 posted on 05/15/2005 5:13:56 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

It's a twofer: Spielberg gets to attack two of his favorite targets. What's not to like? Prediction: Box office disaster. Private bet?


52 posted on 05/15/2005 5:14:51 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette

No thanks. What are you trying to prove? He's attacked the Nazis not contemporary Germans. And what's his other favorite target? Islamic Terorrists?


53 posted on 05/15/2005 5:16:42 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Then why would you allow your wife to be a lesbian in a Showtime movie? These Walls Have Rears or something...

SS may be modest, but he has alot of reasons for being so.

54 posted on 05/15/2005 5:17:25 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Borges

That's true, it was only thirty years ago. But somehow I think he could be making a movie about the US, Africa or the Middle East in the post 2000 era and be doing a better good job.


55 posted on 05/15/2005 5:18:10 PM PDT by two134711 (If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.)
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To: brivette

Oh, that's just my lazy shorthand for Steven Spielberg, LOL.


56 posted on 05/15/2005 5:19:11 PM PDT by two134711 (If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.)
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To: brivette

I would guess that not everyone has the sort of control over their wife that you may have. :-) We're talking about adults here. People are responsible for themselves. Look at Ron Reagan Jr.


57 posted on 05/15/2005 5:20:09 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
He made his fortune in the free enterprise system but has consistently supported its polar opposite, the socialist/liberal agenda.

Spielberg made his reputation by making movies that appeal at the same time to both kids and adults, besides his more 'serious' work such as SHINDLER'S LIST. He's wrapped himself in the child-like aura of such classics as ET: THE EXTRATERESTRIAL, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND and INDIANA JONES.

While I wouldn't call him a Communist I find it instructive that a person who's made a pile of cash selling his products to the kiddies would resign from his Executive position on the Board of the BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA in protest of the decision to deny homosexuals as Scoutmasters.

At least he's given a plain indication of his priorities: He favors Queers over children and wholesome organizations that would nurture them.

58 posted on 05/15/2005 5:23:27 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Borges
People are responsible for themselves. Look at Ron Reagan Jr.

To the best of my knowledge, Ron Reagan Jr wasn't married to Ron Reagan Sr.

59 posted on 05/15/2005 5:23:47 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette

I would guess she does what she wants. She was something of a feminist when he met her. Getting an M.A. in Woman's Studies or something.


60 posted on 05/15/2005 5:26:37 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
"I just don't know what sexuality has to do SS who's as modest about the subject as any contemporary filmmaker"

Uh, yeah. Kinda like Larry Flint's a modern contemporary filmaker.

Here's my point: I'm a Christian that condemns the actions and activities of secular Christians like fat boy Ted Kennedy. Conservative Jews, on the other hand, seem to find it difficult to criticize the insidious, deceitful nature of their secular Jewish "brothers". These so called "brothers" support and advocate homosexuality and other positions that are inconsistent with main stream values.

61 posted on 05/15/2005 5:32:03 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Borges

I guess if I were married to SS, I'd want to be a lesbian too.


62 posted on 05/15/2005 5:33:50 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette
Uh, yeah. Kinda like Larry Flint's a modern contemporary filmaker.

I don't know where you're going with that comparison. Spielberg's films aren't remotely pornographic and don't have a whiff of homosexuality in them. If you just see SS as some sort of symbol of Hollywood Gomorrah then fine. I just like movies. It's really not worth our time to continue arguing about this. Regards.
63 posted on 05/15/2005 5:36:39 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I know they aren't. But when you make statements like "contemporary film makers" that's a pretty broad brush. It's a throw away line. I have no reason to engage you with in a pointless discourse, other than I'll predict the future for you, lest you wish to ignore the obvious: SS pictures will tank. Other than that, have a nice day!


64 posted on 05/15/2005 5:42:39 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Borges
Here's my point: I'm a Christian that condemns the actions and activities of secular Christians like fat boy Ted Kennedy. Conservative Jews, on the other hand, seem to find it difficult to criticize the insidious, deceitful nature of their secular Jewish "brothers". These so called "brothers" support and advocate homosexuality and other positions that are inconsistent with main stream values.

Your response, please.

65 posted on 05/15/2005 5:45:57 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette

You just posed this question to me in Post 61! And I answered it nothing in SS's work glofies homosexuality.


66 posted on 05/15/2005 5:49:18 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Please answer my question:

Here's my point: I'm a Christian that condemns the actions and activities of secular Christians like fat boy Ted Kennedy. Conservative Jews, on the other hand, seem to find it difficult to criticize the insidious, deceitful nature of their secular Jewish "brothers". These so called "brothers" support and advocate homosexuality and other positions that are inconsistent with main stream values. Why do you support them?

67 posted on 05/15/2005 5:53:06 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette
If you boycott someone like SS you basically have to boycott all Hollywood films since he's the best of it. I'm a long time cinema enthusuast and will not do so. If you ignore Art that you disagree with or where the artist is not entirely in line with your own beliefs then you will end up ignoring most of Western Culture.
68 posted on 05/15/2005 5:57:52 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
If you boycott someone like SS you basically have to boycott all Hollywood films since he's the best of it.

When did I ever suggest a boycott of all Hollywood films? Please answer.

I'm a long time cinema enthusuast and will not do so.

That's your problem.

If you ignore Art that you disagree with or where the artist is not entirely in line with your own beliefs then you will end up ignoring most of Western Culture.

Since when has Indiana Jones and the Twmple of Doom represented Western Culture?

Look you have avoided/evaded my question. Do I need to clarify same? Do we need sir cachelot to jump in?

69 posted on 05/15/2005 6:02:19 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette
You suggested not supporting someone who supports anything beyond the mainstream. That would be most Hollywood films. And yes Cinema represents a continuation of Western Culture. It's the primary art form of the last century. I did answer your question. I don't care what an artist's politics are and whether or not I agree with them. Nor do I expect that they care about mine.
70 posted on 05/15/2005 6:06:53 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
"You suggested not supporting someone who supports anything beyond the mainstream."

Look Borges, we have a real commication disconnect here. Last time that happened, I was talking to my wife. You wouldn't happen to be a female, would you? It would explain alot."

"That would be most Hollywood films. And yes Cinema represents a continuation of Western Culture."

What, do tell, is a continuation of "western culture"? Like from Roy Rogers movies? Need your help here.

"It's the primary art form of the last century. I did answer your question. I don't care what an artist's politics are and whether or not I agree with them. Nor do I expect that they care about mine."

As opposed to a secondary art form?

It's good that that you don't agree or disagree with them; at least we know where you don't stand.

71 posted on 05/15/2005 6:16:02 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette
Cinema, which is a major artfom is a part of the storytelling tradition of Western Culture. There is good and bad art in all mediums. I may indeed disagree with someone, it just doesn't affect my taste or judgment about their work. I don't 'agree' with Dante or Milton either. I still love their work. I have a sneaking suspicion that you're just goading me for kicks.
72 posted on 05/15/2005 6:19:49 PM PDT by Borges
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To: CHARLITE
“I am for socialism,” wrote ACLU founder Roger Baldwin in 1936. “I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.”

O.K. o.k. ...I know it, you know it ...why isn't this the number one news story on all networks? Why hasn't Congress initiated hearings? It appears no one cares except for those on Free Republic.

How sad. America had rather have a bargain "Made In China" than Freedom as defined by our Constitution. I fear the majority of my countrymen ...are no longer my countrymen.

73 posted on 05/15/2005 6:20:11 PM PDT by Luke (CPO, USCG (Ret))
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To: Borges
"I have a sneaking suspicion that you're just goading me for kicks."

Nope. Just one last and final question, yes or no: Do you think homosexuality is a normal human trait. Please answer yes or no. Thank you in advance.

74 posted on 05/15/2005 6:29:50 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette
Just one last and final question, yes or no: Do you think homosexuality is a normal human trait. Please answer yes or no. Thank you in advance.

No I do not. If it were humanity would die out wouldn't it?

You're welcome.
75 posted on 05/15/2005 6:32:22 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

It's not nice to answer a question with a question. So tell me, when most secular jewish organizations advocate homosexuality, are they advocating the extinction of humanity?


76 posted on 05/15/2005 6:37:22 PM PDT by brivette
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To: CHARLITE
That said, is there any reason why our tax dollars are STILL subsidizing these dirty schmucks?

People, what we have here is the ACLU biting the very hands that feed them. And those hands are our own.

Enough is enough. Congress needs to cut the strings once and for all. Let these Communists leech off their own ilk (like $oro$) and not on what we pay to the government.

77 posted on 05/15/2005 6:38:59 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (My Tagline! Where the heck is it?)
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To: brivette
"The fact that his films have tanked is another indication of how out of touch this cretin is with mainstream American values."

As of right now his films have a combined domestic gross of $3,223,609,977. His political views have been known for some time. He has had a few lesser grossing films in the last few years (especially the Terminal), but *Catch Me If You Can* made $164 million. Hardly *tanking*. Also, if you looked at his movies from the late 80's, you could have said he was slipping in the box office receipts too(*Always* and *Hook* were not big money makers). Then he made this other movie that made a few bucks... what was it called?....oh yes, Jurassic Park ($357 million). All directors have ups and down in box office, that's how it goes. To say his movies have tanked is to willfully ignore the facts. America loves his movies; not so much his politics.
78 posted on 05/15/2005 6:44:05 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman
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To: brivette

Well to play Devil's Advocate they think it's a random trait that only occurs in a certain percentage of the population. It's not something I spend a lot of time thinking about. Can we end this now? The well is dry.


79 posted on 05/15/2005 6:44:33 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

The fact that you have failed to respond to my question speaks volumes. Enough said.


80 posted on 05/15/2005 6:47:43 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette

"The fact that you have failed to respond to my question speaks volumes. Enough said."

I think he was getting tired of answering your questions, only to be told he didn't, and then asked a new question that had even less to do with the topic at hand, Spielberg's films.


81 posted on 05/15/2005 6:51:15 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman
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To: brivette
Yes I must be gay! How shrewdly you have deduced my flaming homosexual agenda! Good Grief. Have fun in your obsessions. Someone should.
82 posted on 05/15/2005 6:52:33 PM PDT by Borges
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To: CHARLITE
Someone threatened our local ACLU comrades by email and got in big trouble.

Personally thats stupid to email a threat.

They should have just done what they wanted and kept quite.

The ACLU is nothing but a bunch of ambulance chasing muck diving sewer (Demo)rats.
83 posted on 05/15/2005 6:53:55 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: brivette

No, please enlighten me.


84 posted on 05/15/2005 6:54:36 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Borges
Yes I must be gay! How shrewdly you have deduced my flaming homosexual agenda! Good Grief. Have fun in your obsessions. Someone should.

I accept your apology.

85 posted on 05/15/2005 6:55:01 PM PDT by brivette
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To: OKIEDOC

Not sure of your question, please help me out.


86 posted on 05/15/2005 6:57:16 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Borges

I have, for the record, enjoyed our exchanges.


87 posted on 05/15/2005 6:59:48 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette
brivette wrote
You do know who Mr. Spielberg is married to, don't you? And what cable movies she starred in, don't you? If not, I'd be happy to enlighten you.

Since I don't go to movies I don't have the foggiest who Spielberg is married to.

I do know he pushes a Jewish agenda as does most of Hollyweird, at the expense of Christians.
88 posted on 05/15/2005 7:02:14 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: brivette
I have, for the record, enjoyed our exchanges.

I'm glad someone did.
89 posted on 05/15/2005 7:02:17 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
"Yes I must be gay! How shrewdly you have deduced my flaming homosexual agenda!"

Well, wasn't that obvious from the start? Everybody knows about the unending homosexual content in all of Spielberg's films. From the obviously gay ET to the effeminate soldiers in "Saving Private Ryan". His advocation of homosexuality has been relenting. And your acceptance of his movies only shows your acceptance of his perverted agenda too.

(sarcasm off)
90 posted on 05/15/2005 7:02:29 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

"His advocation of homosexuality has been relenting."

That should be relentless.


91 posted on 05/15/2005 7:03:58 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman
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To: OKIEDOC

What might this 'Jewish Agenda' be? And how does it conflict with the Christian one?


92 posted on 05/15/2005 7:05:14 PM PDT by Borges
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Oh Behaaaave!
93 posted on 05/15/2005 7:09:11 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Congratulations! You're no longer beneath my contempt!


94 posted on 05/15/2005 7:10:34 PM PDT by brivette
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To: OKIEDOC
"Personally thats stupid to email a threat.
They should have just done what they wanted and kept quiet."

You're right. It's amateurish, hasty, hare-brained and just plain DUMB to email threats. Furthermore, it's not great strategy for any conservative to start behaving like liberals!

Char :)

95 posted on 05/15/2005 7:13:06 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing, with Billery in tow. on a leash.........)
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To: Borges
Don't read anything other than the fact that most movies made today are about Jewish family life as opposed to 50 years ago when they were about Catholic family life.

The Fockers comes to mind.
96 posted on 05/15/2005 7:16:45 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: CHARLITE

INTREP


97 posted on 05/15/2005 7:20:03 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Please, enlighten me Obey Wan, when did he/she ever answer my question?


98 posted on 05/15/2005 7:20:34 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette

When you asked,

"Just one last and final question, yes or no: Do you think homosexuality is a normal human trait. Please answer yes or no. Thank you in advance."

And he answered,
"No I do not."


Hope that helps. :)

BTW, it's Obi-Wan, not Obey Wan.


99 posted on 05/15/2005 7:24:24 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman
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To: little jeremiah; EdReform; DirtyHarryY2K; Clint N. Suhks

ping.


100 posted on 05/16/2005 6:32:26 PM PDT by DBeers ()
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