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Zero Stars For Star Wars VI (Spoiler Alert)
cbsnews.com ^ | May 16, 2005 | John Podhoretz.

Posted on 05/16/2005 1:18:49 PM PDT by Destro

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To: Diplomat

I'd have to agree. Some of the stuff Luke says in Episode IV are just embarrasing. "But I wanted to go the academy this season!"


281 posted on 05/18/2005 1:09:27 PM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: bethelgrad

I sure wouldn't call my wookie a "fuzzball" either. Might make him go Ewok on me.


282 posted on 05/18/2005 2:18:25 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: All

Just got back from a midnight show.

Episode 3 is pretty darn good. Fast, lots of action. Story flows but is not very strong in parts.

I'm just taking it as entertainment, all politics aside from the movie stuff is just that, politics.

This one is redemption for Lucas for serving up bantha poodoo in the first two prequels.


283 posted on 05/19/2005 1:51:43 AM PDT by Stopislamnow (Three co-equal branches? Not anymore. Sig heil mein black robed tyrant!)
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To: SouthernFreebird

Probably not. We just saw it, and I have a 9yob who is a huge fan of the other five... but I am very hesitant, and my wife adamantly opposed, to Josiah seeing it. To sum it up in two words, "Too dark." And a pair of pretty gruesome scenes ice the cake.

BTW... haven't seen ANY of them? Under what rock do you live?!

Dan


284 posted on 05/21/2005 7:00:14 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr


We are watching them right now. LOL I was just never interested in seeing them and the way my children were spaced I've never had to get into it.

Unfortunately my 9 year old is pumped over this new release so my journey begins. ;-)

So far we've watched 3 of them and I don't see that I missed anything for not seeing them all these years.

I can't imagine star wars is darker than LOTR and my son loved those and could handle them. Besides I don't think I'd be able to get away with NOT letting him see this since lots of his friends are going. Thanks for the input.


285 posted on 05/21/2005 7:10:02 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: SouthernFreebird

You're very welcome, and it is totally your decision, of course -- but I've let my 9yo and 5yo see the LOTR movies, yet we still do fast-forward some scenes in 2 and 3.

This is different. There are a couple of visuals that are disturbing, but there are also some very dark plot developments that are not at all "over their heads," and that might connect hurtfully with a child.

My strongest advice to you, offered precisely for what it's worth, is that you see it first. A friend from church went with his daughter, and said he regretted it, wished he'd previewed. I've never yet regretted being cautious. It's a very righteous PG-13.

Dan


286 posted on 05/21/2005 7:16:47 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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Thanks, I will probably preview it then. I just figured if he could handle LOTR which was very dark and violent then he could handle anything. lol


287 posted on 05/21/2005 12:20:32 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Destro
My 7 year old, who is quite the StarWars expert now, was not impressed one bit. Hubby and I were worried the violence would spoil the whole thing for him. We prepared him for the violence, covered his eyes and after all of that it was the storyline that ruined it for him...(UGH) I thought of getting him home quick so he could see the original two before the force left him! (Hehe)

I understand Lucas didn't want to write a kid's movie.. but in the process of being an "artist"- he lost his way. Perhaps he never understood the attraction we all had to the characters,the fun,the campyness and the plain old Good vrs. Evil STORYLINE in the first place.

Too bad.

It goes to show that the cast and crew and set designers and all the other hundreds of people who worked on the originals were the real stars!

288 posted on 05/22/2005 8:54:23 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: SouthernFreebird
FWIW- I took my 7 year old. We don't see violent movies. I am not much of a movie fan to begin with and my son has seen mostly disney movies until a month ago when he started watching the original SW movies.

I spoke with him at length about what was going to happen in the movie with the violence and I told him his eyes were going to be covered at the part I didn't want him to see and he had no choice about it.

He agreed.

It may sound super silly- but that is how I rationalized letting him go. Beside I wanted him to be able to see one StarWars on the Big screen.

He was fine.

He was disappointed in the movie- but he came out of it unharmed. (and he is pretty sensitive to begin with- he is a cries when cartoon dogs get killed kinda guy)

289 posted on 05/22/2005 9:06:48 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Destro
The final frontier, space is. The voyages of the Jedi, these are.

Ooops... wrong galaxy.

-PJ

290 posted on 05/22/2005 9:22:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Destro

Ping for later


291 posted on 05/22/2005 9:26:38 PM PDT by Marie Antoinette (The same thing we do every day, Pinky. We're going to TAKE OVER THE WORLD! Countdown to #8)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

I saw the movie - it was not bad. Lucas is a brilliant man behind the camera. This last chapter did kind of tie up some ends which made me go - 'oh, I see now' - but I do think the reason Aniken chose to be Darth was a little forced and thin. It was rushed. We needed the forst two movies to show a long decline of Aniken to Darth to make it work well in the third.


292 posted on 05/22/2005 10:03:54 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

It is a great movie. Is Lucas going to give all the proceeds to the GOP? so what?

May the Force be with you all.


293 posted on 05/22/2005 10:08:59 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

*clap*clap*clap*!
We think alike. And there are more like us.
Isn't it a shame? It didn't have to be this way.
Ah well- SW is part of the culture now, and people like us
remember when it was the myth we needed it to be.


294 posted on 05/22/2005 10:11:58 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: TomasUSMC

I saw the movie - I gave it 3 out of 4 stars.


295 posted on 05/22/2005 10:12:06 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: ClearBlueSky; Destro
Again I realize that Lucas didn't want to make a kiddie movie.. but I think he has totally missed the impact the first three had. There was no politics in those three movies-

and families could go- single people could go on dates, friends could go together and we all went to be awe inspired by ships on strings. IT was campy and silly and Darth Vador scared the pants off me! And as my 7 year old chases his younger brother in his Darth Vador Mask, to this day I am a bit frightened of seeing Darth Vador.

Technological advances do not replace Han Solo and his goofy, charming character or the youth and innocence of Luke Sywalker believing Vador was still good deep down inside..None of the current characters displayed any of those themes that I could see.

So it seems that Lucas switched mid stream-and plenty of people will still love this one. A new type of Star Wars is his choice-and the movie will be successful no matter what I say,but I wouldn't say that Lucas is brilliant. The ends could have been tied up better and we could have still walked away loving Starwars.

I wouldn't say Lucas is brilliant at all.. he is cashing in on the original three and everyone who was a part of those movies,IMO.

Of course I need to add that I am not a big fan of hollywood to begin with and I see about two movies a year in the theater. But it is what it is.

I certainly do not want my comments here to take enjoyment away from anyone-but I do want to warn people to be prepared. Getting geeked about seeing a good "old fashioned" Star wars and coming home thinking I would have rather done the laundry -stinks.

296 posted on 05/23/2005 6:05:33 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

There was politics - but the first 3 movies had black and white hat politics so it seems that there was not. In the last 3 politics are grey so you notice it.


297 posted on 05/23/2005 6:35:52 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: WoofDog123

Definitely a botched job. Vader was supposed to be intelligent . . . a master engineer. He designed the TIE fighter. Did you ever get any sense that this was the case? The only inkling you had of it was when he was a little kid on Tatooine. They pretty much abandoned that whole aspect of his persona.

I was hoping to see a character who was truly power mad and truly evil. What I got was a punk who was pissed because he didn't get his way. His whole conversion to the dark side was pathetic and weak.

I was very disappointed.


298 posted on 05/23/2005 7:01:54 AM PDT by jayef (e)
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To: Destro

"No performer living or dead could pronounce the word "Naboo" without sounding like a moron"

Interestingly enough, "Naboo" in Burmese means, loosely, "Perv" or "horndog"


299 posted on 05/23/2005 7:15:33 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: jayef

"What I got was a punk who was pissed because he didn't get his way"

Lucas really did bring this trilogy down to teenage-level emotional content.


300 posted on 05/23/2005 7:28:02 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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