Posted on 05/17/2005 12:34:50 PM PDT by FoxPro
Can EZ-Bake ovens be kashered?
I must be getting the torahs confused. Wouldn't be the first time I'm confused at all :D
You are apparently right.
So what's the name of the book that orthodox Jews say has all the rules?
I don't think so. The committee came up with "fire = work". At least I didn't find a reference to fire as work in Leviticus or Deuteronomy.
No one has to be orthodox if they don't want to. There are people quite happy with the orthodox lifestyle. I'll say that it's very hard for someone to join that life if they've not grown up in it.
2) What's with the "blech"? Is that a means of reminding folks not to use the burner, or a way of using the burner that stays within the "no work on Sabbath" rule?
The Talmud is the written version of the Oral Torah, if that's what you mean.
Thank you! I was trying to remember the name since I read this thread. Thanks.
This all comes from wanting to avoid even the slightest shadow of impropriety. You can find similar behavior in Congress. And they still manage to be improper out the kazoo.
<muslim mode> AAAYYYYEEEEEEEE!!!!!
Oh, you just insulted my beliefs! You have HYOOO-MEEEL-EEE-AYTED me! You have ridiculed the Holy Torah!
Just for that, I will get all my neighbors together to riot, rampage and mass murder for days on end. </muslim mode off>
Takes deep breath.
Why automatically ridicule something just because you don't understand it?
I wonder what the Jerusalem hospitals' ER procedures are on the Sabbath? Can the emergency doctors do anything? Do ambulances even pull up to the doors, or is that considered "work"?
<sabbath mode on> Israeli hospitals operate at full capacity 24/7. There are many excellent Shomer Shabbat hospitals in Israel, the most well-known is Laniado Hospital of Netanya.
Fire clearly relates to work as well
Exodus 35:1-3 1. Moses called the whole community of the children of Israel to assemble, and he said to them: "These are the things that the Lord commanded to make. 2. Six days work may be done, but on the seventh day you shall have sanctity, a day of complete rest to the Lord; whoever performs work thereon [on this day] shall be put to death. 3. You shall not kindle fire in any of your dwelling places on the Sabbath day."
"Oral" meaning, G-d, Blessed is He, taught certain laws to Moses versus writing them down. this is the same process we all went through in school, (those that went to school, not sure everyone in this thread did) that is text book and class instruction to understand a subject. the Bible would have been too large to handle had all the implementation been written down. Sjackson is quite correct to say kindling a flame is a Torah/Bible prohibition on Sabbath. The prohibitions themselves where not clearly delineated in the text are based upon the necessary activities needed to build the tabernacle. The lessons are primarily found in Exodus where the instructions for building the Tabernacle are found and where the constant refrain is also found, {paraphrasing} "but do not do this on Sabbath". Therefore, even the very act of building the dwelling for G-d to reside with the Jews in the wilderness and where He would meet with Moses to give instruction, as important as this task was, does not override Sabbath restrictions.
Sabbath restrictions are to remember that in 6 days G-d created the Heavens and the Earth. He stopped creating on the 7th day. We too are commanded to stop all "creative" activity on the 7th day (which also happens to be the day called Saturday thanks to the Romans and not Sunday). The basis of all these laws restricting actions on Sabbath is to keep Jews from doing creative acts like our G-d, the creator of the universe did on the Sabbath.
I do know that in Williamsburg, I can find the most beautiful hats and skirts. No shopping mall sells nice skirts anymore. It's such a quiet area and although the people aren't conversational, it's really...quiet. Not even on Saturday.
The rationale is that your house is a reshut hayachid (private dwelling) while the street is a reshut ha'rabim (public place) and one is not allowed to carry in a public place.
As for moving around every stick of furniture in the house, nobody does that.
What's the difference between the Torah and Talmud? Isn't the talmud supposed to be a further explanation of the Torah and especially about things like this thread topic?
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