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NYT: Adrift 500 Feet Under the Sea, a Minute Was an Eternity (submarine crash and rescue off Guam)
New York Times ^
| May 18, 2005
| CHRISTOPHER DREW
Posted on 05/18/2005 5:59:47 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY
And then there was the Russian Kursk...
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posted on
05/18/2005 6:53:59 AM PDT
by
mtbopfuyn
(Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
To: skimbell; babyface00; ctlpdad
Ah, gotcha. The only reason I questioned why they were being blamed is because the article never provided that info. Thanks.
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posted on
05/18/2005 6:54:45 AM PDT
by
kx9088
To: Vision
Why did we name an attack submarine the USS Jimmy Carter?Do you have any idea how many rabbits there are in this world?
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posted on
05/18/2005 7:08:44 AM PDT
by
ctlpdad
To: kx9088
I really think it sucks that the Capt & others had their whole NAVY careers screwed up over this. They sound like the kind of people we need on our side. Procedure is procedure, though.
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posted on
05/18/2005 7:11:09 AM PDT
by
ctlpdad
To: ctlpdad
The USS JIMMY CARTER
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posted on
05/18/2005 7:17:46 AM PDT
by
Vision
(When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
To: Vision
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posted on
05/18/2005 7:20:14 AM PDT
by
ctlpdad
To: OESY
Well, I think I'm now AYB-programmed: When I read "What just happened?," "Someone set us up the bomb" immediately came into my thoughts.
To: OESY
The Navy sucks for careers. On one hand they demand the captain to run a course and make time, and on the other, they give him unreliable charts. Other than a constant sonar running, how the Hell are captains to know what is ahead of them if the Navy can't update the charts reliably?? Subs are a team effort of the whole Navy, but only the captain's ass hangs in the wind.
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posted on
05/18/2005 7:59:45 AM PDT
by
shellshocked
(They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
To: OESY
Must such accidents can be traced to a series of events where one bad assumption or faulty impression leads to another resulting in ultimate failure. Sad, but these things do happen -- cross checking even the most comfortable assumption is in order.
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posted on
05/18/2005 8:02:44 AM PDT
by
RAY
(They that do right are all heroes!)
To: OESY
Well, that was one of the best articles that I have read concerning the accident. For all of you who read it, even though it leaves some stuff out, it is pretty much the entire truth as far as things went onboard. The NYT didn't blow this one out of the water, there was no speculation in it (at least that hasn't come from people in the Navy itself), and it didn't demonize the CO, XO or NAV like I expected someone to. All in all a difficult read for me, but a good one.
711 forever
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posted on
05/18/2005 9:03:43 AM PDT
by
Laz711
(Fear is the Mind Killer)
To: pageonetoo
Hard to believe it could ever be "good as new" after all that damage. If it's like my car, it'll always pull to the left.
To: LibWhacker
If it's like my car, it'll always pull to the left.You must be driving a Yugo...
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posted on
05/18/2005 1:09:50 PM PDT
by
pageonetoo
(You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
To: Doohickey
ping for your list, Doohickey
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:13:43 AM PDT
by
Ready4Freddy
(Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
To: OXENinFLA; OESY
I suspect that that would be the nose of the USS Honolulu (SSN-718), transplanted to SSN-711. Doubt that pic is in Guam, either - isn't the refit / rebuild happening at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard?
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:17:54 AM PDT
by
Ready4Freddy
(Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
To: LibWhacker
The San Francisco is getting the entire forward compartment of the USS Honolulu (SSN-718). 718 was decomm'd within the last few weeks, I think.
Hard to believe it could ever be "good as new" after all that damage.
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:23:31 AM PDT
by
Ready4Freddy
(Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
To: Doohickey; OXENinFLA; OESY; LibWhacker
Ooops! Apologies for pinging you to an ancient thread! I had a search window open, checking before I posted a (far more current :) article this AM, and this one must have been on that page. I saw 'subs' and went into overdrive.
Note to self: Check the date of the article...!!! ;>)
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:40:06 AM PDT
by
Ready4Freddy
(Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
To: Ready4Freddy
Hey, no problemo, R4F! I wish I had a dollar for everytime I didn't check the date of some thread that got me revved up. :-)
To: Ready4Freddy
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posted on
10/18/2006 10:47:02 AM PDT
by
Doohickey
(I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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