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NYT: Adrift 500 Feet Under the Sea, a Minute Was an Eternity (submarine crash and rescue off Guam)
New York Times ^ | May 18, 2005 | CHRISTOPHER DREW

Posted on 05/18/2005 5:59:47 AM PDT by OESY

APRA HARBOR, Guam, May 16 - Blood was everywhere. Sailors lay sprawled across the floor, several of them unconscious, others simply dazed. Even the captain was asking, "What just happened?" All anyone knew for sure was that the nuclear-powered attack submarine had slammed head-on into something solid and very large, and that it had to get to the surface fast.

In the control room, a senior enlisted man shoved the "chicken switches," blowing high-pressure air through the ballast tanks to force the vessel upward. Usually, the submarine would respond at once. But as the captain, Cmdr. Kevin G. Mooney, and top officers stared at the depth gauge, the needle refused to budge.

Moments before, they had been slipping quiet and fast through the Pacific. Now, they were stuck, more than 500 feet down.

Ten seconds passed. Then 20, 30.

"I thought I was going to die," Commander Mooney recalled.

It would be close to a minute, but an excruciatingly long minute, before the submarine's mangled nose began to rise, before the entire control room exhaled in relief, before the diving officer, Chief Petty Officer Danny R. Hager, began to read out a succession of shallower depths.

"I don't know how long it was," Chief Hager said, "but it seemed like forever."

Last week, Navy investigators reported that a series of mistakes at sea and onshore caused the 6,900-ton submarine, the San Francisco, to run into an undersea mountain not on its navigational charts. One crewman was killed, 98 others were injured, and the captain and three other officers were relieved of their duties as a result of the Jan. 8 crash, one of the worst on an American submarine since the 1960's....

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ashley; guam; mooney; navy; sub; submarine
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The nuclear submarine San Francisco last week in Guam. It crashed into an undersea mountain in January.
(An interesting interactive graphic of the sub is at the Times' story site.)
1 posted on 05/18/2005 5:59:47 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

Her nose looks much better...........


2 posted on 05/18/2005 6:00:55 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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To: OXENinFLA

WHY WOULD YOU NAME ANYTHING IN THE MILITARY AFTER san francisco?. A CITY NOTORIOUS FOR BELITTLING AND UNDERMINING THIS COUNTRY'S DEFENSES?


3 posted on 05/18/2005 6:06:40 AM PDT by Jazzman1
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To: Jazzman1

Maybe because it's filled with seamen....


4 posted on 05/18/2005 6:14:04 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: Ford4000

LoL!


5 posted on 05/18/2005 6:15:22 AM PDT by demlosers ("freedom to attack as well as freedom from attack")
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To: Jazzman1
WHY WOULD YOU NAME ANYTHING IN THE MILITARY AFTER san francisco?...

Well, looking at the picture, ...

Never mind.

6 posted on 05/18/2005 6:16:18 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Jazzman1
WHY WOULD YOU NAME ANYTHING IN THE MILITARY AFTER san francisco?. A CITY NOTORIOUS FOR BELITTLING AND UNDERMINING THIS COUNTRY'S DEFENSES?

Just to bug the San Franciscans?

The San Francisco attacked...
The San Francisco unleashed devastation...
President Bush ordered the San Francisco to...

You can just hear the liberals gnashing their teeth. :-)

7 posted on 05/18/2005 6:26:58 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Relying on government for your retirement is like playing Russian roulette with an semi auto pistol.)
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To: Ford4000

MR BURNS: What do you think, Smithers?

SMITHERS: Women and seamen don't mix, sir.

MR BURNS: Bah, we know what you think.


8 posted on 05/18/2005 6:30:06 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: OESY

So the officers were relieved of their duties for what reason?


9 posted on 05/18/2005 6:34:18 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: OESY
Thank you for posting this story.

It is an excellent example of the dangers that airmen, soldiers and sailors face daily, even when they're not in a combat zone, that ordinary civilians will never face.

Everyone should keep that in mind this Memorial Day and salute our service members for their sacrafice, courage and patriotism.

10 posted on 05/18/2005 6:40:45 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life,...")
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To: kx9088

Yeah, the mountain pulled right out in front of the San Fransisco and didn't even have it's clearance lights on.


11 posted on 05/18/2005 6:43:01 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: skimbell

The article states that it wasn't on their charts. Other than sonar, how else would they know? Think they deliberately smashed into the mountain?


12 posted on 05/18/2005 6:44:38 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: OESY
"...(God), here us when we cry to thee for those in peril on the sea..."

--former "bubblehead" (RM1/SS)

13 posted on 05/18/2005 6:45:04 AM PDT by meandog (FU-DU lurkers)
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To: kx9088

From the article:

The Navy has placed the blame on the captain and the crew, and Commander Mooney says, "I accept full responsibility." He acknowledges several critical mistakes, including going too fast, taking insufficient depth soundings and failing to cross-check the route with other charts.

Also:

Looking at a picture of that moment, Commander Mooney speaks with pride of the way his crew brought the boat home. But an image discovered on the voyage back also remains seared in his mind, he says, one that helped seal his dismissal and spark broader questions about the Navy's navigational training and support.

That image is a small, light-blue circle on a white background. It signifies a potential hazard two to three miles from where the San Francisco crashed - close enough, Commander Mooney says, that if he had known about it, he would have tried to skirt the area or asked for a new routing. Charting experts now believe that hazard was the mountain, and that its location was imprecisely reported in the days before satellites made navigational fixes more precise.

Commander Mooney said he first heard about the hazard from his boss onshore a few hours after the grounding. It is, in fact, on every chart of the area except for the one that the boat was using - the one that usually provided the most detailed picture of the seabed contours.


14 posted on 05/18/2005 6:46:29 AM PDT by ctlpdad
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To: kx9088

If I recall correctly from a previous article, there are periodic updates to the charts and those updates did reflect either the object they hit, or the fact that the area was poorly documented.

However, because of the nature of the orders received, the captain/crew did not take the updates into consideration.

My memory is a little fuzzy, but I believe that the summary of the situation was that the captain/crew weren't acting recklessly, but had they followed procedure, the obstacle would have been avoided, or steps would have been taken to proceed more cautiously.


15 posted on 05/18/2005 6:48:05 AM PDT by babyface00
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To: Ford4000

ROFLMAO!


16 posted on 05/18/2005 6:48:19 AM PDT by txroadhawg (Don't believe any statistics unless you made them up yourself)
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To: Jazzman1

Why did we name an attack submarine the USS Jimmy Carter?


17 posted on 05/18/2005 6:49:17 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: OESY
Compare to the before...


18 posted on 05/18/2005 6:50:56 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: kx9088
I know. When this originally happened this page went into an extended discussion relating to where them blame lies. As I remember, the final responsibility for everything that happens aboard his boat rests with the captain. That sounds pretty tough but I guess the captain knew what to expect, I haven't heard anything from the officers involved trying to duck the responsibility.
19 posted on 05/18/2005 6:51:06 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: WildTurkey

Ping.


20 posted on 05/18/2005 6:53:53 AM PDT by Eaker (..Let them throw cake!! . (TheMom)
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