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Experts Call for Common North America Border
Yahoo - Reuters ^ | May 17, 2005 | Larry Fine

Posted on 05/18/2005 3:16:34 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

The United States, Canada and Mexico should establish a common security perimeter to guard against terrorism in North America, a tri-national independent task force said in a report released on Tuesday.

The countries should police their borders together to help border trade, allow easier movement of citizens and to keep out potential security threats, the task force said at New York's Council on Foreign Relations.

"If our two borders, the one between Canada and the United States and the U.S. and Mexico, became a frontline for security the impact that would have on normal relations and economic relations would be profound," said co-chairman John Manley, a former Canadian deputy prime minister and minister of finance.

The task force was sponsored by private groups in each of the three countries including the U.S. Council on Foreign Relations, and there was no indication that governments would act on the proposals.

The report, titled "Building a North American Community," also called for free movement within the continent for citizens through a North American Border Pass with biometric identifiers and other measures to increase economic and military cooperation between the countries.

William Weld, a former Republican governor of Massachusetts, and Pedro Aspe, former finance minister of Mexico, were the other co-chairmen of the task force, comprised of over 20 experts from government, business and academia.

Manley contrasted the scrutiny of goods flowing between Canada and the United States with a lax attitude to imports arriving at shipping ports.

"As I told my one-time U.S. counterpart (U.S. Homeland Security chief) Tom Ridge once, 'You inspect a grain car entering the U.S. from Saskatchewan closer than you do container traffic coming into the United States from the Middle East.' And I think that's still the case."

Other recommendations included improving labor mobility, developing an energy strategy with greater emphasis on reducing harmful emissions and establishing an investment fund to build infrastructure to connect Mexico's poorer regions in the South to the market of the North.


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To: Ben Ficklin

Thanks for the bump. With your help, this thread about the Quislings who want to destroy American sovereignty will go on and on and on, and will be read by thousands of impressionable lurkers.


101 posted on 05/18/2005 7:05:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: rdb3

President Fox would love to have free movement of the "people" - No Thanks

People = Mexican poor and unwanted


102 posted on 05/18/2005 7:06:44 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com
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To: West Coast Conservative

I have no words to express the vehemence of my opposition to such a ludicrous notion.


103 posted on 05/18/2005 7:08:36 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Travis McGee
Threads like this at FR are like zoos. Once you've seen one, you seen them all.

BTW, what exactly is it the Senate Foreign Relations Committee doing on this perimeter security?

104 posted on 05/18/2005 7:11:42 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Cornpone
"sounds fishy to me but I'm willing to listen..."

I listened this far:
"...police their borders together to help border trade, allow easier movement of citizens and..."

I can easily guess which "citizens" will acquire easier movement (across either of two borders).

Needs no further discussion.

105 posted on 05/18/2005 7:11:56 PM PDT by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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To: Travis McGee
William Weld, a former Republican governor of Massachusetts, and Pedro Aspe, former finance minister of Mexico, were the other co-chairmen of the task force, comprised of over 20 experts from government, business and academia.

William Weld. Long-time, well-known RINO extraordinaire.

The latest in a long line of Weld infamies.

106 posted on 05/18/2005 7:13:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We, the people, are the...masters of...the courts..." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: West Coast Conservative; HiJinx

We cannot depend on our Northern neighbor for OUR security, nor can we likewise depend upon the Southern neighbor. To depend upon them would be to place the security of these United States beyond the direct control of the government sworn to protect her citizens.

I'm never going to agree to that. Washington, do your duty.


107 posted on 05/18/2005 7:16:25 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: EternalVigilance
Here is what I think of the rats and rinos who would sell their nation down the river for a fast buck:

Quisling: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

108 posted on 05/18/2005 7:23:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

yep..... watch canada closely


109 posted on 05/18/2005 7:23:47 PM PDT by Twist_T (ever see a east indian cab driver selling crack? ............ only in canada)
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To: the anti-liberal

There wouldn't be any illegals with this. This is the biggest bunch of bull I've ever heard. Talk about the Fox guarding the chicken house. Manley is a Socialist isn't he?


110 posted on 05/18/2005 7:26:43 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalism = Leninism.... Liberalism = Bolshevism)
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To: azhenfud
We cannot depend on our Northern neighbor for OUR security, nor can we likewise depend upon the Southern neighbor. To depend upon them would be to place the security of these United States beyond the direct control of the government sworn to protect her citizens.

Yes, that is the idea. You have grasped the essential fact. If you think our border control today is pathetic, just wait until our leaders (sic) are able to blame tens of millions of new illegal immigrants on Mexico and Canada.

I'm never going to agree to that. Washington, do your duty.

I don't think they are hearing you.


111 posted on 05/18/2005 7:28:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Ben Ficklin
So, whats in it for you?

The funny thing about it is, this was not a thread about illegals. It was about perimeter security. But someone turned it into an illegal thread.

Perimeter security IS about illegals. There is absolutely nothing for me to gain from illegals being here in my neighborhood. It is a total loss for me. They bring crime, disease, and panhandling.

I welcome all LEGAL aliens that wish for the American Dream and are willing to go through the steps to become law abiding citizens.

As for those that support ILLEGAL aliens, there must be something in it for them. Votes, cheap labor, welfare, bringing in illegal relatives, to name a few.

Your turn, I asked you first.

112 posted on 05/18/2005 7:38:06 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Trteamer
"Perimeter Security IS about illegals."

Wrong.

It is about "pushing out the borders".

113 posted on 05/18/2005 7:52:23 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

So what's in it for you? LOL!


114 posted on 05/18/2005 7:54:29 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Travis McGee


Oh cripes.


115 posted on 05/18/2005 7:54:44 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Trteamer
You are like everybody else here.

Because I disagree with you, you are compelled to call be OBL or say I support illegals. You and all the rest do this because that is you only argument. I am, you know, adamently against illegal immigration.

As it stands now, there are three options in regard to illegals.

1. Kennedy-McCain
2. Cornyn-Kyl
3. The status quo

I, of course, support Cornyn-Kyl. Where do you stand?

116 posted on 05/18/2005 8:08:47 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Oh please explain "Cornyn-Kyl" to me.

And you forgot option #4:

ENFORCE THE LAW.


117 posted on 05/18/2005 8:31:34 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Because I disagree with you, you are compelled to call be OBL or say I support illegals.

I did not! Nowhere on this thread did I do any such thing. All I did was ask you "What's in it for you?".

118 posted on 05/18/2005 8:39:18 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: West Coast Conservative; hedgetrimmer
FROM THE ARTICLE..."The report, titled "Building a North American Community," also called for free movement within the continent for citizens through a North American Border Pass with biometric identifiers and other measures to increase economic and military cooperation between the countries."

This is the agenda boiled down. Under the guise of fighting terrorism...lets accelerate the incremental process of erasing our national identity...and our national sovereignty. This is what 'progressives' in BOTH parties want don't ya know.

Will Canada and Mexico sign on to our traditions and laws...our Constitution...all the things that make this country unique.....no way.

We don't want a North American equivalent of the EU.

IMO, the next couple years are going to continue to be a series of 'coming out parties'...as the political and economic power brokers who have this agenda reveal themselves. I think they see a window of opportunity before the immigration issues completely blow up....and the backlash intensifies.
119 posted on 05/18/2005 9:35:56 PM PDT by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: Dat Mon
IMO, the next couple years are going to continue to be a series of 'coming out parties'.

I agree. Will the American people fear the future these people have planned for us, enough to throw the bums out of office and participate in our own government as is our duty? Or prosecute the most treasonous among them? We shall see, won't we?

The Agenda of the Elected

This author appears to have it nailed.
120 posted on 05/18/2005 9:42:14 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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