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I was in Madison a few weeks ago. I loved the fact that there were big "W"s everywhere. Including on the Kohl Center. I went running around town. You can run down one street and after the intersection would be an absolute mess of litter from a drunken party the night before. I'd never seen it so bad before and I'd been in many many college towns.

Madison's problem isn't the college students, it's the hangers-on. The people who never leave. Maybe they get a string of useless Master's degrees, maybe they just own an organic sandwich shop. They are the ones that make Madison (and Boulder and Ithaca) the wholesale pit of idiocy it is.

The reason they stay is partially the college environment, but it's also the pretty geography and the lack of opportunities (except for Milwaukee) in other urban areas of the state. The fact that Madison is the seat of state government doesn't help either.

"Madison's problem isn't the college students, it's the hangers-on. The people who never leave. Maybe they get a string of useless Master's degrees, maybe they just own an organic sandwich shop. They are the ones that make Madison (and Boulder and Ithaca) the wholesale pit of idiocy it is."

Very well stated, AD. And you can use my quote in your next "Tagline Update."

I never thought about it that way. Funny. When I was a young lass in High School and was dating boys from Madison because they were "so kewl" it never occured to me to wonder why all these 25 year old MEN were still hanging around town, LOL! (Of course when you're 18, you think anyone over 21 has ALL the answers because they can legally buy you beer and cigarettes, LOL!)