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ACLU Wants Jail For Public School Teachers, Principal
TheJacksonChannel.com & AP News ^ | May 19, 2005

Posted on 05/19/2005 6:27:20 PM PDT by blueberry12

NEW ORLEANS -- The American Civil Liberties Union has asked a federal judge to jail public school teachers and administrators for allegedly violating a court-imposed ban on school prayers.

It's the fourth time the ACLU has told Judge Ginger Berrigan that officials in Louisiana's Tangipahoa Parish are flouting her prayer ban.

This time, the ACLU said an elementary school teacher repeatedly held prayers in her fourth-grade class, encouraged students to bring their Bibles to school, held Bible studies in the school cafeteria and admonished students who didn't show up.

In addition, the ACLU cited a prayer "in Jesus' name" that was recently given over a high school's public address system while the principal sat by silently.

The ACLU said school officials' violation of the prayer ban "must result in their removal from society."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: aclu; antichristian; flyovercountry; jailed; praying; purge; school; schoolprayer; secularjihad; teachers; turass
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1 posted on 05/19/2005 6:27:21 PM PDT by blueberry12
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To: blueberry12
In the ACLU's upside-down world, Christians are more dangerous to society than pedophiles! Go figure.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 05/19/2005 6:29:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: blueberry12

Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1405997/posts
ACLU asks jail for Tangipahoa(Louisiana) school officials


3 posted on 05/19/2005 6:31:22 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

That's it guys

Put a teacher in jail for leading a prayer and you will ensure the end of the fillibuster..

Libs are their own worst enemies......


4 posted on 05/19/2005 6:38:41 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (September 11, 2001, never forget, and never forgive.)
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To: goldstategop

It's getting to the point where we really need to stop believing that these people are just misguided, and take slightly more aggressive actions...IMO. If they succeed in jailing these teachers and administrators, well I can't say what should be done.....


5 posted on 05/19/2005 6:41:12 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: blueberry12

I am so sick of what the ACLU wants. Some sane people are still giving them money. Unbelievable.


6 posted on 05/19/2005 6:41:12 PM PDT by motherof 3
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To: blueberry12
Dear ACLU:

Pound sand. Do it until you bleed.

7 posted on 05/19/2005 6:43:16 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and proud of it!)
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To: blueberry12

ACLU obviously has a lot of stooges and rats that report back to them.


8 posted on 05/19/2005 6:45:02 PM PDT by dennisw (the country music station plays soft but there’s nothing, really nothing to turn off)
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To: blueberry12
Do they really want a Christian jihad launched against them.

Most Christians I know are pretty cum se cum sa, don't screw with to much they will leave you alone.

That could change if some federali jails someone for saying prayers.

9 posted on 05/19/2005 6:45:10 PM PDT by dts32041 (Robin Hood, stealing from the government and giving back to tax payer. Where is he today?)
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To: dts32041
There's a Secular Jihad in this country. What does it matter if people pray on their own time in a Southern school? The ACLU ought to have better things to do than to police people's religious habits down in Flyover Country.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
10 posted on 05/19/2005 6:47:23 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: blueberry12

Dear ACLU,

Luckily for you the U.S. is not Panama because you would be laughed out of the country…and then some.


11 posted on 05/19/2005 6:58:05 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: motherof 3
Some sane people are still giving them money. Unbelievable.

American tax-payers are funding the sh*ts...it's the law...for the ACLU...

13 posted on 05/19/2005 7:04:04 PM PDT by gdc314
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To: blueberry12

The ACLU should be regarded as a terrorist network.


14 posted on 05/19/2005 7:04:32 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: blueberry12
The ACLU is a COMMUNIST FRONT ORGANIZATION!
15 posted on 05/19/2005 7:05:36 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: dts32041
That could change if some federali jails someone for saying prayers.

That should change if some federali jails someone for saying prayers

16 posted on 05/19/2005 7:05:55 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: blueberry12
The ACLU said school officials' violation of the prayer ban "must result in their removal from society."

I'm not religious, but that statement just plain frightens me.

17 posted on 05/19/2005 7:07:34 PM PDT by monkeybrau
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To: af_vet_1981
Amen.....
N.O.W. and all of the Gay activist organizations should also be regarded as terrorist networks.
18 posted on 05/19/2005 7:07:49 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: blueberry12

My goodness, these Christians are so dangerous! They must be punished!


19 posted on 05/19/2005 7:14:52 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Sirius24

"Public school teachers have no business leading their students in prayer, especially after a federal court has repeatedly told them not to do so."

It's called "Freedom of Religion". I think I read something about it in something called the U.S Constitution. Someone long ago called it a "God Given Right". Rights givin to us by God can not be taken away by the courts, the American Criminal Liberties Union or YOU! If you don't like it go to another school.


20 posted on 05/19/2005 7:17:51 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: blueberry12
Did you know that every time the freaks at the ACLU file a case against American traditions your tax dollars pay their exorbitant attorney fees.

I believe the communists at ACLU to be more of an enemy to America than Osama and al Queida.
21 posted on 05/19/2005 7:19:22 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Sirius24
People are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves when or when its not appropriate to pray. They don't need the ACLU and federal judges making that decision for them.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
22 posted on 05/19/2005 7:20:36 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: monkeybrau
George Orwell wrote that in Big Brother's nation, those who went against the Party would be erased from history. Hence the term "Orwellian." The ACLU wants the government to decide who can or cannot work as a public servant on account of their religious beliefs.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
23 posted on 05/19/2005 7:22:59 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: blueberry12

Who are the ACLU attorneys in this case??


24 posted on 05/19/2005 7:23:20 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Sirius24
i see no problem with a prayer and the pledge of allegiance to start the day.

Did it everyday that I spent in public school.

The problem here is the federal court told them not to do so.

Probably an activist make up the law as you go judge.

By the way what color is your Kool Aid, Grape.
25 posted on 05/19/2005 7:24:49 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: blueberry12

Be interesting to learn who is filing the complaints...


27 posted on 05/19/2005 7:29:44 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: blueberry12
Absolutely amazing that the post about the Mullahs stripping the head Taliban, Sheikh Omar of his authority ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1406762/posts ) was posted just ahead of this latest piece of ACLU madness.

It's a protent FUR SHUR.

28 posted on 05/19/2005 7:30:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: motherof 3

It is getting to the point where I want to strangle any ACLU freako lawyer I see. And the absolute worst thing about their lawsuits is that they can sue time after time after time and then the TAXPAYERS have to foot the damned bill!


30 posted on 05/19/2005 7:30:57 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Sirius24
Public school teachers have no business leading their students in prayer, especially after a federal court has repeatedly told them not to do so.

Children attend public schools to be educated, not indoctrinated with religious dogma.

If you want government sanctioned religion I suggest a one-way ticket to Iran.

I try to be a good Christian and when I pray I pray in the name a Jesus but I couldn't agree with you more.

If I had my choice I would ensure that the Pledge of Allegiance is recited every morning and that a moment of silence is offered after the pledge.

31 posted on 05/19/2005 7:33:51 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: blueberry12
That's ultimately what it's going to take to defeat the ACLU: massive noncompliance. All the court orders and injunctions and all the rest of that bureaucratic arsenal are worthless if right-thinking citizens just go ahead and celebrate their religion anyway.

Hey, it worked for Gandhi.

32 posted on 05/19/2005 7:36:21 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Sirius24
No one is forcing you to pray. Just keep seated. Unlawful orders, regardless if from a superior officer or from the courts hold no power in the law.
What part of the 1st Amendment in the "Bill Of Rights" do you not understand? Why do you think they are called "Bill Of Rights"? I guess you also believe I do not have "The right to bear arms".
33 posted on 05/19/2005 7:37:45 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: dts32041
Do they really want a Christian jihad launched against them.

Do you mean a Crusade? Time was, not so long ago, most people never heard of a jihad, didn't know what it meant.

34 posted on 05/19/2005 7:51:30 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: blueberry12

Let me know when the ACLLU lawyers are determined to seek jailtime for their lawyers who skew reality.


35 posted on 05/19/2005 7:57:40 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: RasterMaster
Bring it on ACLU!

PLEASE start arresting people for praying... nothing will end this judicial tyranny quicker !
36 posted on 05/19/2005 9:10:34 PM PDT by Nyboe
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To: blueberry12

Only a matter of time until the Anti Christian Litigation Unit holds their first public book burning.


37 posted on 05/19/2005 9:11:11 PM PDT by Amish with an attitude (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: RasterMaster

Not only should the ACLU lawyers face charges but also the writers of this story should . This only raises questions and divisions , read the diverse posts. There are no details that support either side in this . Who said the prayer over the intercom? ...a student? Are the Bible studies being held after school during free time ? Whats wrong with that? How can you hold a Bible study without a Bible? The one detail inserted in the story that really should perk up the interest of every freedom lover is the threat to " remove from society "


38 posted on 05/19/2005 9:13:01 PM PDT by loneroofer (love life)
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To: blueberry12

I still think we should send the boyscouts into the next ACLU lawyers meeting armed with stick and whips.

Should make one heck of a "Film @ 11".


39 posted on 05/19/2005 9:20:46 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: blueberry12

INTREP


40 posted on 05/19/2005 10:30:01 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: Sirius24
So we can just ignore federal court rulings we don't like and force Christian prayers upon non-believers? Interesting.

As a matter of fact we can ignore federal rulings we don't like. Judges are not the sum total of law in the US, the constitution is. The 1st amendment gives us freedom of religion and speech, both of which were exercise by the school prayers. No where in the constitution does it say anything about "seperation of church and state" it only says the government can't establish a state religion. Praying in a school is not establishing a state religion.

The constitution gives us the right to ignore laws that are unconstitutional, the founding fathers would be turning over in their grave to see people of YOUR ilk trying to control the country.

41 posted on 05/19/2005 11:19:38 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Sirius24

Since the First Amendment states:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,..."

the "Federal Judge" in this case has violated the Federal Constitution by prohibiting prayers: the free exercise of religion.

It follows that the rulings of that "Federal Judge" are unenforceable.




Moreover,


42 posted on 05/20/2005 6:23:05 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: blueberry12

If we still had a Congressional Anti-American Activity Committee, the ACLU woul dbe on their short list.

Something has to be done to combat this group. Some organization has to step up to the plate and fight them on these issues.

Where are the Christian support groups, the Christian churches?


43 posted on 05/20/2005 6:38:12 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Sirius24

Do you have a more precise source for your tag line?


44 posted on 05/20/2005 10:37:53 AM PDT by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: Sirius24

It's called Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech newbie.

Deal with it.


45 posted on 05/20/2005 10:40:36 AM PDT by Skooz (Property Taxes are Immoral)
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To: Nyboe
Bring it on ACLU! PLEASE start arresting people for praying... nothing will end this judicial tyranny quicker !

Exactly. Nightly news footage of the little old teacher in handcuffs being led away from school by cops would cause an uproar against these goons.

46 posted on 05/20/2005 10:44:33 AM PDT by Skooz (Property Taxes are Immoral)
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To: blueberry12

Did I just read this one right?

Are the ACLU talking about opposing rights we have been granted by the consititution, and by GOD?

And is it true (preachers?) that in spite of
all this, that some churches STILL allow for compromise when it comes to evolution,
abortion, and other important issues?

Look, I have an idea... Why not petition the
government to send the ACLU and THEIR
supporters to some other country where they do not tolerate expressions of religion.

Because they SURE enough DO NOT desire the
America I hear that our soldiers apparently
fought and died for.

Why not pack the bastards' bags and get them
the HECK out of here.

Or at least, why don't we try to find a way to
stand together?

You want to talk about a "Purpose Driven Life"-
Preacher men? I think THIS is IT!
Love you all.
Jeremy Witte


47 posted on 05/22/2005 12:29:17 PM PDT by JeremyWitte (Send ACLU out of the USA! GET RID of them)
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To: blueberry12
In addition, the ACLU cited a prayer "in Jesus' name"

There's just something about that name!
48 posted on 05/22/2005 12:34:28 PM PDT by bearsgirl90
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To: Armedanddangerous
OK Listen! I am a student at the Tangipahoa Parish school Loranger H.S. That all this school prayer shit is revolved around my opinion is that it is Bull crap. Ok im not religious, but I play sports (softball and colorguard) and i am a junior well gonna be next year not being able to pray before the games or at pep rallies is just a load of crap. Ok no body is forcing the students to pray it is a tradition for the colorguard to pray before a performance and at the softball games for the teams to get together after the game and pray. whether you worship alla jesus christ budda or even the devil it doesnt matter you should be able speak your beliefs aloud. if your an atheist no one is forcing you to pray. when the prayer is going on just sit by shut up and let ppl do their thing and if you do that im sure ppl will shut up and let you do urs.
49 posted on 05/25/2005 2:31:50 PM PDT by LHSfatspitch17 (A student/victim of BULL SHIT)
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To: hophead

It reads freedom of!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not freedom from.


50 posted on 05/25/2005 2:43:07 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH
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