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To: areafiftyone

whoever uses Hitler/Nazis in any discussion to prove/disprove a position...loses the argument.


6 posted on 05/20/2005 9:58:07 AM PDT by stylin19a ( Social Security...neither social nor secure.)
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To: stylin19a
whoever uses Hitler/Nazis in any discussion to prove/disprove a position...loses the argument.

Ah, a rare voice of reason.

7 posted on 05/20/2005 9:59:54 AM PDT by skip_intro
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To: stylin19a

I disagree. There are arguments where a comparison of circumstance to a past circumstance are entirely appropriate.

In fact, the comparison Santorum was making was a good one. The Germans had invaded France, and installed a government. That government claimed it was the legitimate government of France, and made an alliance with Germany.


And remember that before the invasion of Normandy, the Allies worked very hard to get a representative of France to give them permission to invade the country, because they DID see it was the rule of law to respect the borders -- but from the original government, not the new invalid government.

So Santorum was saying that in the same way, the Republicans DID have to follow the rules and tradition, but it would be the TRUE ones, not the invalid ones that only existed for 2 years. We were going to remove the invalid and put back the invalid, just like the allies were removing the invalid rulers of France and restoring the valid ones.


I have used the comparison to Nazi Germany when discussing the problem of allowing HUMANS to define what is and is not life. In Germany they decided that the majority in power could decide who was a "person", and who should be "eliminated". Likewise in our early history our country let some people decide which other humans were "persons", and which could be treated like property. In this context, the comparison to Hitler is appropriate -- those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

There is a substantive difference between saying that a person's act is analogous to the act of Hitler, and saying that a person is worse than Hitler, or like Hitler, or as bad as Hitler.

Rick never compared the minority Senators to Adolph Hitler. He said that their PROTESTs about republicans changing the rules was similar to Hitler claiming that we could not invade France.

It only "loses" if we abandon rational thought and give in to the thought police.


9 posted on 05/20/2005 10:22:48 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT (http://spaces.msn.com/members/criticallythinking)
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To: stylin19a

Not here...


36 posted on 05/20/2005 12:24:19 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: stylin19a
whoever uses Hitler/Nazis in any discussion to prove/disprove a position...loses the argument.

nonsense. it is often used as a legitimate direct point-by-point comparison that stands on all fours.

43 posted on 05/20/2005 11:38:38 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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