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Dear GOP, No Deal. There will be a political price. (Vanity Rant)
Red Blooded Rule of Law American | 5/18/2005 | Self

Posted on 05/20/2005 10:27:10 AM PDT by JesseJane

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To: wmfights

well, with the direction the peoples republik of kalifornia is heading, why don't we just go ahead and GIVE it to mexico, and close our borders to them?


51 posted on 05/20/2005 12:12:22 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Protagoras

I am dense also. What does the pic in #43 represent?


52 posted on 05/20/2005 12:14:30 PM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: JesseJane

I have come to the conclusion that all god things come in their own time.

Review please the current events. The primary, that is the most important political action is the confirmation of judges. That process is slowly but surely grinding to a successful conclusion

When it is over, there will be Rat energy and blood and guts all over the corridors of power. It will be a seminal event because it will be obvious to all that the Rats have no power. They have been defeated and the winds of change have increased from a zepher to a gale.

The issue of the borders will be addressed when the storm has passed and the Rats have become more docile and fearful of their very political lives. Under those circumstances, much can be accomplished. There can be bipartisen legislation supported by the powerful pubbies and the simpering Rat moderates.


53 posted on 05/20/2005 12:17:09 PM PDT by bert (Rename Times Square......... Rudy Square.)
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To: Final Authority
I was not writing strictly about immigration and the thread doesn't either.

I was when you addressed me. The main article is pretty immigration-specific, too.

My point is that the issue only cuts one way: against the Republicans. So whenever I see a "conservative" draw a line in the sand over immigration, I'm suspicious. 'Nuff said.

54 posted on 05/20/2005 12:25:44 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: afnamvet

Looks like a seal, and a border.


55 posted on 05/20/2005 12:27:14 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist

Ahhh Hah! Thanks! Dense I am. ; )


56 posted on 05/20/2005 12:34:20 PM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: JesseJane
Le ZOTTE: My very IMPORTANT opinion on tonight's debate. VERY IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS VANITY! MAYO

Posted on 09/30/2004 11:56:49 PM EDT by Jim Robinson

NO ONE ELSE THOUGHT OF THIS SO IT DESERVES A THREAD OF ITS OWN!

I think each and every poster on FR should post a new thread stating his opinion on the debate. This way, instead of having only a few threads with hundreds of posts each (ie, discussion threads), we will have hundreds of threads, each with two comments. One the important opinion, and two, the complaint about vanity posts.

57 posted on 05/20/2005 12:34:43 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: JesseJane

Thanks for speaking my mind and saving me the time!


58 posted on 05/20/2005 12:36:52 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Clemenza
OK, you make a good point. But my issue with what you said is that tarring the entie state as a sh_thole because of religious cults, hollywood, and gay rights does a real disservice to the good conservatives who live here and are watching their "American Dreams" go down the toilet.

Religious cults are not a major threat to this country. I agree with you that Hollywood is out of control, as is the gay rights movement. But c'mon, you can't blame all of California for those elements.

Illegal immigration has truly turned this state into a sh_thole, and you are correct that the newcomers are used as tools of the manipulators. But to just cast aspersions toward California as if to say "good riddens" is not constructive; indeed it's *destructive* with regard to trying to fix the problems. We are all in this together- we should hang together or we will hang separately, imo.

59 posted on 05/20/2005 12:37:16 PM PDT by 7.63Broom (The Left- Poison for America's Soul)
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To: pa_dweller
If a thread like this, discussing an issue of truly national importance crowds out a thread of the Scott Peterson/Michael Jackson ilk, I'm all for it.

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60 posted on 05/20/2005 12:37:45 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: iopscusa
to every MSM falsified account of reality.

Media or not, the Pubbies have taken for-freakin-ever to get the Constitutional option to the floor, and the porus borders are more of a reality than I'd like to accept. I don't need the MSM to tell me that there is a serious lack of balls in the Senate AND the Administration.

61 posted on 05/20/2005 12:42:12 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Physicist
You are quite wrong about immigration and the conservative voter. Are you aware of the magazine, National Review? They have warned the GOP against doing nothing on immigration or face the consequences of being out of power as soon as 2006. If you can disabuse me of my understanding that National Review is a conservative voice and speaks for many of us then please try.

BTW, what is the essence of conservatism? I'll answer it for you. To conserve the US Constitution. The Constitution is a document that is the basis for our nation. A nation must have laws and borders and they must be enforced or we cease to be a nation, and the Constitution becomes meaningless. It expires and so does our nation. The US Constitution is more important than any political party, even the GOP.
62 posted on 05/20/2005 12:42:48 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: JesseJane

term limits!!!

The only answer to our non listening politicans is TERM LIMITS.


63 posted on 05/20/2005 12:47:02 PM PDT by Eternally-Optimistic (anything is possible)
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To: Eternally-Optimistic
TERM LIMITS

Here. Here. Let's write up the legislation and find someone to sponsor it. We can call it the Optomistic-Pal bill.

64 posted on 05/20/2005 12:49:44 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: All

Of course, I'm paraphrasing, but Sean said he heard that the Republican "moderates" want to deal with Dems that two nominees won't go to the floor for an up or down vote, and GET THIS - Dems can filibuster whomever they want regarding Supreme Court nominees if they are not "acceptable." Of course, the Dems won't think anybody that interprets the Constitution is acceptable.

As for the two nominees, of course, the Dems will pick the best we got, to filibuster.

Sean says Republican "moderates" need to have courage and should not compromise with Dems and the Constitution should not be compromised.

Listen to Sean now. GREAT show, as usual.

Call your Republican senators toll-free at 1-877-762-8762 and tell them NO COMPROMISES with Dems.

Rush Limbaugh said that senators are wavering back and forth, partly because of pressure from the public - our phone calls, folks. Let's get more phone calls and/or e-mails than the other side does.

Even if none of these WAVERING senators is your own senator,
please call 'em, anyway.

The last I heard the key GOP Senators are John Sununu (NH), Collins (ME), DeWine (OH), Hagel (NE), Murkowski, Specter (PA), Warner (VA), and maybe Lindsey Graham (SC). Frist can afford to lose only two, because McCain, Chafee, and Snowe have declined to end the judicial filibusters.

We can call toll-free at 877-762-8762 .


Fax or e-mail info can be found here (but phone calls are more effective):
http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm

Urge each to FULLY SUPPORT THE FILIBUSTERING
RULES CHANGE.


65 posted on 05/20/2005 1:13:49 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: Sun; Admin Moderator

Why are you spamming all these threads with that post? You only need to post it once.


66 posted on 05/20/2005 1:15:15 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: Howlin; Admin Moderator

I want as many people to see what's going on as possible and call, call call your U.S. senators. Not each FReeper sees EACH thread.

Why does that bother you?

We are in the fight of our lives!!!!

Whose side are you on, anyway?


67 posted on 05/20/2005 1:18:51 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: 7.63Broom
We are all in this together- we should hang together or we will hang separately, imo.

Amen. I should also tell you that I love the Napa/Sonoma area and the central coast as well. I am also from New York and currently live in Seattle so I feel your pain.

68 posted on 05/20/2005 1:29:26 PM PDT by Clemenza (Now its dark...)
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To: Clemenza

Seattle? Arrrgh! (Or should that be Unnnngh!) Be well, FRiend.


69 posted on 05/20/2005 1:52:34 PM PDT by 7.63Broom (The Left- Poison for America's Soul)
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To: Final Authority
Are you aware of the magazine, National Review? They have warned the GOP against doing nothing on immigration or face the consequences of being out of power as soon as 2006.

Oh, I quite agree. They've been backed into that corner.

But I'm also aware that by doing any given thing on immigration, they also face the consequences of being out of power soon. They've been backed into that corner, too.

I can point out the same thing with respect to abortion, social security, and a couple of other issues.

The Dems, by contrast, can do anything they like on any of these issues, and pay no price at all. They have everything to gain by making them the centerpieces of their campaign, and of the Republicans' campaign.

The US Constitution is more important than any political party, even the GOP.

I completely agree with that...but the most pressing issue in that regard is the gigantic growth of government and taxation, IMHO. Make that the focus of the next campaign and the Republicans win big. JMHO.

70 posted on 05/20/2005 2:44:42 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: 7.63Broom; Clemenza
I know that this thread is dead, but I wanted to amend something I said earlier. I don't want to come off as someone who dislikes Mexicans or Mexican culture. I grew up with and still have Mexican-American friends. My neighbors are Mexicans, some possibly illegal, and they are nice people. Sometimes they play their music too loud, but I can see over time that they are slowly becoming "Americanized", especially their kids.

With that said, what I find troubling is the concept of a "reconquista" and I don't see how any reasonable American can accept the idea. If Mexicans or anyone else want to come to this country to take advantage of the opportunities offered here, why not use the American template for success, rather than a separatist movement? Let them come, let them prosper, let them honor their roots, but ask them to join us by learning our language, flying our flag- at least along with their former country's flag, and celebrating our unity.

I don't know how many of the illegal immigrants buy into the "reconquista". Certainly there are some. I would hope that they would reject the idea. As Americans, they would stand a better chance of success than as Mexicans or Aztlaners.

And this brings me to amnesty. Personally, I think the best way to fix the immigration problem is to absolutely stop all illegal border activity with a concerted federal effort. At the same time, a second federal effort to assimilate those who are illegal and wish to stay. Offer federal subsidised english instruction, work permits and an opportunity to eventually become citizens. I would also favor establishing federal guidelines for teaching U.S. history. New immigrants, as well as citizens should be made aware of the great things about America and the opportunities it represents.

In an earlier post I wrote that California is a "sh_thole" now because of illegal immigration. That was an unfortunate term that I used because it was used by another poster. Beyond the passion of the moment, I would not say that California is a "sh_thole". Illegal immigration has caused a lot of problems for the state. Not all of these problems are directly caused by llegal immigration, but it does stretch resources that could be used to address pressing issues.

The bottom line for me is that the "reconquista" is a dangerous idea to allow to flourish. Why the government allows such talk, I don't know. Not a racist- just an American who prefers to celebrate our unity, rather that our diversity.

71 posted on 05/21/2005 1:36:28 PM PDT by 7.63Broom (The Left- Poison for America's Soul)
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