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"Strange that not more women hate men" (Swedish government cooperating with militant feminists)
Aftonbladet ^ | May 21, 2005 | Petter Sunsted

Posted on 05/21/2005 12:11:00 AM PDT by Eurotwit

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To: Nick Danger

NOT IN MY NAME!!!!! I love men. I loved my late husband. My daughters grew up in that environment. They love their husbands. We all have marriages in which we have been equal partners. We have all had good marriages. Their children, boys and girls, are growing up to respect members of both sexes.
I don't even know any die hard feminists. My middle daughter was a feminist for a brief time while a student at Randolph Macon Women's College and right after graduation, but she is a reformed woman now and a very staunch Republican.


61 posted on 05/22/2005 12:31:54 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Eurotwit
Every time I read an article like this, I thank God that my great-grandparents emigrated from Sweden, to the United States.

Sweden is lost, at least for the present time and foreseeable future. It is a pity. At one time, they had a lot to contribute to the planet.

62 posted on 05/22/2005 12:37:39 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (<insert clever, witty, or silly statement here>)
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To: GoLightly

Without loking it up, can you name any of the mothers of the people on my list? By the way, most of the people on my list were compromised in some way. daVinci was probably gay. Beethoven was deaf for part of his composing career, Einstein had to flee anti-semitism etc. They all flourished against the odds and didn't let their societies keep them down.


63 posted on 05/22/2005 1:05:50 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: Luke21; GoLightly
There's a whole lot of projecting going on here. I didn't charge you with sexual harrassment or make ad hominem attacks on you. Lighten up. I was making an observation about Schopenhauer. He was a social loser, disliked women and his philosophy shows it. I didn't attack either of you or say anything about buying into women as victims.

I was just opining (that's still legal here, right?) that I hate threads (like these) that end up pitting the sexes against each other instead of promoting conservative philosophy. Every time I object to girls vs. boys threads some rockhead jumps to the wrong conclusion.

This is my opinion--there are conservative men and conservative women, (smart people); and there are liberal men and liberal women, (stupid people). Can we leave the lines drawn there and leave the sex out? Militant feminists are first and foremost liberals, and therefore stupid. That they are women is secondary, and certainly gives them nothing more in common with conservative women than gender. Hilter was a man, and Saddam is a man, but I don't think all men are bad. That would be stupid.

64 posted on 05/22/2005 1:28:19 PM PDT by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
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To: muir_redwoods
Without loking it up, can you name any of the mothers of the people on my list?

If I don't know their names, could one assume that they didn't exsist? Odds are, I couldn't find that infomation, even if I took the time to try to look it up. It's not the kind of thing where any kind of credit is given.

They all flourished against the odds and didn't let their societies keep them down.

That speaks to their true greatness. It argues against the "level the playing field", multicultural, diversity & affirmative action BS pushed by the left. Meanwhile, it does not argue in favor of recreation of the old standard of women being chatel or maybe it does... What do you think?

65 posted on 05/22/2005 1:29:28 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: NYpeanut
There's a whole lot of projecting going on here.

There is? How so?

I didn't charge you with sexual harrassment or make ad hominem attacks on you.

I never said you did, especially because you didn't.

Lighten up.

???

I was making an observation about Schopenhauer. He was a social loser, disliked women and his philosophy shows it.

His life & how it has interjected itself into his philosophy is irrelevant. It's no different than shooting down anything a woman says on the basis of her looks, without even looking into the merit of what she has had to say. Men who have found social success could embrace some of the close minded bigotry that Schopenhauer expressed, so arguing against his philosophy by citing his own lack of social success does nothing to dispel anything he says.

66 posted on 05/22/2005 1:46:16 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
If you do not believe it, is it productive to spread it? Is it a good way to counter anything previously stated?

No, I don't believe it. I did find the essay to be one of the most hilarious things I've ever read. I mean, come on, a crotchety old man on a rant about how much he hates girls. I mostly threw it in as humor. Maybe it might seem off base to some, but if a woman made a similiar rant about men(actually, many have) I'd probably find it equally amusing.
67 posted on 05/22/2005 4:31:43 PM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: MonroeDNA
Explains why "Bad Guys" get all the women, while "Nice Guys lose out." Explains why whe know women lie a lot, but guys can almost never win. Or if we do win, we pay in spades.

As best as I can tell, women seem to want a sensitive bastard. The problem is that bastards can pretend to be sensitive, while sensitive guys have a hard time acting like bastards. It boggles me how I lost women in the past because I was too nice to them, which they construed as weakness.

You just brought clarity to a confused guy, and I thank you for your post. The essay makes great sense.

It was meant mostly for humor. Schopenhauer was a nasty guy, and I don't share his hatred for women, and I hope you don't either. That being said, he did have some insights that were admittedly dead on. I learned a lot from the essay too, and maybe next time I won't be such a fool.
68 posted on 05/22/2005 4:49:48 PM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: DarkSavant
I asked, cuz I figured as much, but it's never good to assume anything. ;o)

I did find the essay to be one of the most hilarious things I've ever read. I mean, come on, a crotchety old man on a rant about how much he hates girls.

The part I read didn't say how he felt about girls. Instead, it put out his theory about why we (women) are all bubble brained airheads. I know plenty of women that *have* more hair than wit, but I never felt any kind of need to come up with any theory about what makes them that way. I don't spend any time trying to figure out why some guys act like knuckle draggers either, but maybe that's just me.

Maybe it might seem off base to some, but if a woman made a similiar rant about men(actually, many have) I'd probably find it equally amusing.

It's been quite a few years since I searched out a copy of the SCUM Manifesto & read it. If you're ever looking for some er, light reading...

69 posted on 05/22/2005 5:04:00 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: NYpeanut
The men in this thread are just responding to the feminazis in the article calling them animals and dildos and so forth, so of course sex is relevant in this case. As he says in post 67, DarkSavant doesn't really agree with Schopenhauer...he's just giving the feminazis a taste of their own medicine. Same for muir_redwoods' "list of men". Apparently, you thought they were seriously trying to be sexist, labeling this thread a "girls v boys" thread, when in fact it wasn't one until you showed up.

Can we leave the lines drawn there and leave the sex out?

Here's your very last post before you started posting in this thread: tsk, men.

70 posted on 05/22/2005 5:28:23 PM PDT by DemWatch
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To: Xenophon450
Manimal
71 posted on 05/22/2005 5:33:06 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: DarkSavant; MonroeDNA; pissant

Why do you need Schopenhauer when you have Pissant? :-P

Cheers.


72 posted on 05/22/2005 7:51:24 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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