NH: Man without I.D. vows to board flight or be jailed

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[Mulder]

Thousands of people were killed on 9/11 because of lax security at airports.

Thousands were murdered because 1) hundreds of Americans on planes had been indoctrinated to "not fight back" against violence; and 2) gov't policies which encourage unchecked immigration.

It had nothing to do with "lax security". That is a lie propagated by statists who fantasize about turning America into a totalitarian police state.

[Kozak]

"In a free country you do not need government permission to travel."

Now try and drive without a license...

[Mulder]

In a free country at war, perhaps you do.

Please cite the Congressional declaration of war?

The border with Mexico is wide open, but American citizens need ID to travel. Something is terribly wrong with that picture.

[Controlling Legal Authority]

Its already been done.
About a year or so ago after a 2 hour drive to the airport I realized I'd left my wallet at home. All I had was my luggage, my paper ticket and a few dollars in my pocket. Someone was meeting me at my destination that could cover my necessities so I decided to go ahead and see if I could get on the plane. I didn't have any trouble boarding but they did check my bag and I was selected to be searched prior to boarding.

[MichiganConservative]

This is not a free country. This is a slave state. We are owned by government. Governments at different levels (state, federal, local) have taken our freedom in various ways. For example, do you own your property? What if you decide to not pay your property tax?

[Mulder]

What a moron.

He's stupid for believing we live in a "free" country.

They should immediately hustle him out the back into a waiting police car.

Under what charge? Or have we reached the point where citizens can merely be hauled off for any reason now?

[Mulder]

fly on an airline that doesn't, if you can find one

The airlines are quasi-goverment run today.

If one of the airline companies announced a policy to allowed Americans to fly armed tomorrow, you'll find out just how "free" the companies are.

[mewzilla]

"In a free country you do not need government permission to travel."

Nope, but you DO need an ID.

Don't like it, DON'T fly.

[Mulder]

Nobody said he needed an ID to travel. just to do it on an airplane. Big difference

Really? You mean I can drive across the country without ID?

[Mulder]

If he really wants to take a stand on an important issue, he should refuse to sign his tax return and claim his fifth amendment rights

I think they just increased the fine for doing that to $5000.

Freedom!

[Mulder]

He is being told he cannot use certain modes of travel unless he conforms and submits to certain reasonable screening requirements.

Can you show me a copy of those "reasonable screening requirements"?

I won't hold my breath. The statists wouldn't even produce them for a retired congresswoman.

[Mulder]

An ID simply isn't asking that much

Why is an ID necessary if you've already been searched?

[Mulder]

In fact, we fought a Cold War against a foe with hydrogen bombs, enough chem/bioweapons to kill everything on Earth, and an active program of infiltrating spies and saboteurs into the U.S. WITHOUT requiring ID to fly.

Good point. Somehow we survived the Cold War without the Patriot Act, national ID cards, Homeland Security, and so on.

(Then again, given our transition to a police state, maybe we really didn't prevail with regards to the Cold War)

[Mulder]

Enjoy your walk home, loser.

Yeah, only a real loser would actually stand up for his Rights.

If he was a real Amerikan, he'd sit at home with a six-pack, cheering on the soundbytes uttered by our "leaders".

[Mulder]

Prior to 9/11, if a plane were hijacked, pilots and cabin crew were trained not to resist. The underlying assumption was that the hijacker wanted to live. Better to land the plane safely- no matter where than potentially causing a problem in flight.

It's a lot broader than that. For the last several decades, Americans have been indoctrinated to submit to any authority rather than resist.

I mean look at the responses on this thread to an American who is resisting (peacefully) authority.

I can guarantee you that if I flew again, I'd rather be seated among 100 passengers with the mindset of this "free stater", than 100 passengers with the statist mindset of many posters here. The former would likely resist a hijacking. The latter would likely not resist.

9/11 changed that paradigm.

For some Americans, it did. The statists in DC still don't get since they are blocking the armed pilots initiative passed by Congress.

[This Just In]

Interesting. Were you traveling on a large commercial jet? International flight? Charter prop? Had you traveled frequently on that carrier prior? Just curious.

[Mulder]

This is not a free country. This is a slave state.

If anyone doubts this, try driving a vehicle without your "papers", or try peaceably walking down the street with a rifle slung over your shoulder.

One thing I will give the state credit for is their brillant propaganda machine. It puts anything cooked up by the Soviets or Germans to shame. They've actually convinced people that this a "free" country.

If they came out tomorrow and mandated implantable microchips, cameras on every corner, and GPS tracking of all vehicles, most Americans would still belive that this a free country.

What if you decide to not pay your property tax?

Then you are "free" to either surrender your property or be killed by the state.

[don-o]

Yet another poster who either did not read the article or needs help in reading comprehension. He says he will go to jail if not allowed on the plane!

I'm glad someone will do it - I was glad when people got arrested peacefully sitting in at abortion mills. Alas, the toothpaste is out of the tube as far as freedom to travel. I hold some hope on the other matter.

[Caipirabob]

I have a far greater objection to the search...

[Drew68]

I engaged in a bit of civil disobedience myself this weekend. I deliberately borded a flight from Norfolk, VA. to Jacksonville, FL. with a contraband Bic lighter *gasp* smuggled in my pocket! I was curious to see if it would set off the metal detectors. And I wanted a cigarette upon arriving in Jax.

Yeah, I was a bit nervous at first but I slipped right through. I guess in the eyes of TSA I am an arch criminal who jeopardized dozens of lives with my blatant disregard for the law and public safety.