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Creation Museum Sparks Evolution Debate
RedNova ^ | 22 May 2005 | Staff

Posted on 05/23/2005 3:29:06 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: wallcrawlr

"why dude, why?"

Because you posited an axiom that (a) is unsupportable and (b) an axiom that I _KNOW_ you've been called on multiple times.

I have no patience for willful stupidity.


581 posted on 05/24/2005 3:10:10 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Radio and television, microwaves, infared, visible light, ultraviolet light, x-rays and gamma rays are all the same thing. The only difference is radio has long wavelengths and low frequencies, while gamma rays have short wavelengths and high frequencies. The colors we see with the eye are part of the same electromagnetic spectrum as dental x-rays, radar beams, and microwave ovens.


582 posted on 05/24/2005 3:10:33 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: dread78645

So, in this microwave experiment we are measuring the speed of microwaves, not the speed of light? Nuts. I wanted to see a 700nm mark on the chocolate.


583 posted on 05/24/2005 3:11:46 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Liberal Classic
The only difference is radio has long wavelengths and low frequencies, while gamma rays have short wavelengths and high frequencies.

So there is some kind of reciprocal relationship whereby one has never discovered a long wave with a high frequency or vise versa? Just asking.

584 posted on 05/24/2005 3:14:11 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

This is basic, *basic* science. This isn't advanced physics. This isn't even freshman college physics. This is grade school stuff! If you want to debate intelligently on scientific issues it really helps to understand some basic science, such as the electromagnetic spectrum. I don't expect you to turn around and drop everything and believe the earth is 4 and a half billion years old. However, with some basic understanding of science will come the realization that the earth cannot be merely 10,000 years old.


585 posted on 05/24/2005 3:19:02 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I think I am being had here.

Either that or Darwin Central saboteur.

The conspiracy that caresTM

586 posted on 05/24/2005 3:22:40 PM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

It depends on if you're talking about a waves in the water or light. It goes back to the speed of a wave being defined as the wavelength in distance multiplied by the frequency in Hertz. If you have a long wave with a high frequency, the speed is going to be faster than a short wave with a low frequency. A short wave with a low frequency would be an occasional ripple on still water, where a long wave with a high frequency would be rough seas. Now all light is pegged at the speed of light, so yes, there's a reciprocal relationship between frequency and wavelength for light energy. We make use of this principle when calculating the speed of light from the frequency of a microwave oven and the distance between the hot spots.


587 posted on 05/24/2005 3:26:48 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Liberal Classic
Give it up. Fester wants "immutable facts." So, because powered flight wasn't possible before December 17, 1903, but it is now, you can't really believe in powered flight unless you can arrange to stand there on December 17,1903 and see it for yourself, and/or explain all of aerodynamic theory in terms a mildly dim pre-schooler could grasp. Even then, you eyes could be fooling you, or somebody might just have told you you saw it.

Facts are immutable!

588 posted on 05/24/2005 3:32:45 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: RadioAstronomer

Apparently Fester doesn't realise that not all light waves are in the visible spectrum.


589 posted on 05/24/2005 3:35:34 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: RadioAstronomer

If he really is like that, I pray to the Creator that his children are not home-schooled.


590 posted on 05/24/2005 3:37:27 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Fester Chugabrew
we are measuring the speed of microwaves, not the speed of light?

They're the same thing.

Nuts. I wanted to see a 700nm mark on the chocolate.

Get a really small ruler. But at 700nm the wavelength is too short to transfer energy to the water molecule.

591 posted on 05/24/2005 3:37:36 PM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: Gumlegs

Most of them. Most have died are were still the same person they were when they got the prize. Didin't change: no tails, no wings, no feathers, just arms, legs and human genitalis.


592 posted on 05/24/2005 3:42:50 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: js1138; Right Wing Professor
Citation.


593 posted on 05/24/2005 3:44:38 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: js1138
If you can sucker them into simultaneously demanding authoritative sources and rejecting authoritative sources you are ahead.

Somewhere in here you assume the lurkers are not idiots and rest your case.

594 posted on 05/24/2005 3:50:18 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Know what the words mean. Frequency. Look it up. Speed. Look it up.
595 posted on 05/24/2005 3:52:36 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: dread78645
They're the same thing.

If they're the same thing how come I can see one, but not the other? At any rate, I think you are saying every wave within the electromagnetic spectrum travels at the speed of light. Yes?

596 posted on 05/24/2005 3:53:51 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: furball4paws

This keyboard sucks.

Sigh


597 posted on 05/24/2005 3:57:44 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: VadeRetro; All

No one can be willfully stupid. Are we being deflected?


598 posted on 05/24/2005 3:59:51 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I can see one, but not the other?

Because the receptors (rods and cones) in your eye are able to detect a very narrow bandwidth of EM called the visible spectrum (red thru violet). (Note: only the cones are sensitive to color) This is why you see only shades of gray in very dim light such as night. The rods are far more sensitive to the dim light but they don't differentiate colors.

599 posted on 05/24/2005 4:04:45 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: furball4paws
Are we being deflected?

I think so.

600 posted on 05/24/2005 4:05:53 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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