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Creation Museum Sparks Evolution Debate
RedNova ^ | 22 May 2005 | Staff

Posted on 05/23/2005 3:29:06 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

Ken Ham has spent 11 years working on a museum that poses the big question - when and how did life begin? Ham hopes to soon offer an answer to that question in his still-unfinished Creation Museum in northern Kentucky.

The $25 million monument to creationism offers Ham's view that God created the world in six, 24-hour days on a planet just 6,000 years old. The largest museum of its kind in the world, it hopes to draw 600,000 people from the Midwest and beyond in its first year.

Ham, 53, isn't bothered that his literal interpretation of the Bible runs counter to accepted scientific theory, which says Earth and its life forms evolved over billions of years.

Ham said the museum is a way of reaching more people along with the Answers in Genesis Web site, which claims to get 10 million page views per month and his "Answers ... with Ken Ham" radio show, carried by more than 725 stations worldwide.

"People will get saved here," Ham said of the museum. "It's going to fire people up. If nothing else, it's going to get them to question their own position of what they believe."

Ham is ready for a fight over his beliefs - based on a literal interpretation of the book of Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament.

"It's a foundational battle," said Ham, a native of Australia who still speaks with an accent. "You've got to get people believing the right history - and believing that you can trust the Bible."

Among Ham's beliefs are that the Earth is about 6,000 years old, a figure arrived at by tracing the biblical genealogies, and not 4.5 billion years, as mainstream scientists say; the Grand Canyon was formed not by erosion over millions of years, but by floodwaters in a matter of days or weeks and that dinosaurs and man once coexisted, and dozens of the creatures - including Tyrannosaurus Rex - were passengers on the ark built by Noah, who was a real man, not a myth.

Although the Creation Museum's full opening is still two years away, already a buzz is building.

"When that museum is finished, it's going to be Cincinnati's No. 1 tourist attraction," says the Rev. Jerry Falwell, nationally known Baptist evangelist and chancellor of Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va. "It's going to be a mini-Disney World."

Respected groups such as the National Science Board, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the National Science Teachers Association strongly support the theory of evolution. John Marburger, the Bush administration's science adviser, has said, "Evolution is a cornerstone of modern biology."

Many mainstream scientists worry that creationist theology masquerading as science will have an adverse effect on the public's science literacy.

"It's a giant step backward in science education," says Carolyn Chambers, chair of the biology department at Xavier University, which is operated by the Jesuit order of the Catholic church.

Glenn Storrs, curator of vertebrate paleontology for the Cincinnati Museum Center, leads dinosaur excavations in Montana each summer. He said the theory of dinosaurs and man coexisting is a "non-issue."

"And so, I believe, is the age of the Earth," Storrs said. "It's very clear the Earth is much older than 6,000 years."

The Rev. Mendle Adams, pastor of St. Peter's United Church of Christ in Pleasant Ridge, takes issue with Ham's views - and the man himself.

"He takes extraordinary liberties with Scripture and theology to prove his point," Adams said. "The bottom line is, he is anti-gay, and he uses that card all the time."

Ham says homosexual behavior is a sin. But he adds that he's careful to condemn the behavior, not the person.

Even detractors concede that Ham has appeal.

Ian Plimer, chair of geology at the University of Melbourne, became aware of Ham in the late 1980s, when Ham's creationist ministry in Australia was just a few years old.

"He is promoting the religion and science of 350 years ago," says Plimer. "He's a far better communicator than most mainstream scientists."

Despite his communication skills, Ham admits he doesn't always make a good first impression. But, that doesn't stop him from trying to spread his beliefs.

"He'd be speaking 20 hours a day if his body would let him," said Mike Zovath, vice president of museum operations.

Ham's wife of 32 years agrees. "He finds it difficult talking about things apart from the ministry," Mally Ham says. "He doesn't shut off."

Ham said he has no choice but to speak out about what he believes.

"The Lord gave me a fire in my bones," Ham says. "The Lord has put this burden in my heart: 'You've got to get this information out.'"


This seems to be based on an article in the The Cincinnati Enquirer:
Ministry uses dinosaurs to dispute evolution . From there I got these pics:


Ken Ham poses with dinosaur models in his unfinished $25 million Answers in Genesis museum.


The 95,000-square-foot complex of Answers in Genesis is being built on 50 acres in Boone County. The Creation Museum covers 50,000 square feet.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: creation; crevolist; kenham; museum
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To: wallcrawlr

"When God asks you what choices youve made in life, he wont accept, "well wallcrawlr acted this way on the forum (whaa whaa) so I dont want to believe in Christs work". It aint gonna fly."

That's my business, not yours. I'm not worried. Your business, as I understand it, is to live in imitation of Christ. You're doing a lousy job of it.


641 posted on 05/25/2005 5:22:34 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

You have no clue and your judgement does not matter.


642 posted on 05/25/2005 5:55:09 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

643 posted on 05/25/2005 6:15:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Dimensio
Apparently Fester doesn't realise that not all light waves are in the visible spectrum.

You've nailed it in a short sentence.

644 posted on 05/25/2005 6:25:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: dread78645

And that graph is supposed to show... what?


645 posted on 05/25/2005 6:26:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: furball4paws

You must have the same kind as mine!


646 posted on 05/25/2005 6:28:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Your eyes are similar to your FM radio, in that it will only 'recieve' a certain part of the nergy spectrum.

It tunes from 88 to 108 millions of cycles per second frequency, out of a WHOLE reange of other stuff that is also hitting the antenna, but the innards don't know it.

Your old TV picked up CH 2-13 VHF band (Very High Frequency waves)

When THAT band got overloaded with broadcasters they started utilizing an Ultra High Freq band: UHF which picked up channels 14 to 83.

(BTW, the 'channels' are 6 millions cycles wide which is needed to convey the video and audio information to the human)Your eyes pick uo just a part of the total spectrum of energy that is landing on them.)

Your AMradio 'tunes' to a lower freq than both your TV and your FM. Your cordless phone operates ABOVE the range of your TV's, and your microwave opetes even higher than that, but not quite as high as Light.




You can't 'see' heat because your eyes do not 'tune' for it. However, in your skin, you DO have receptors that DO pick up these frequencies. Some snakes have VERY advanced 'heat' receptors that low them to find prey in the dark.


647 posted on 05/25/2005 6:41:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

 Just because I am not a Christian 

 

 

Ok; you've piqued MY interest!

 

If you're not, yhey WHY do you have this screenname??          BeHoldAPaleHorse

 

 

-- King James
Revelation 6:8  And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

-- American Standard
Revelation 6:8  And I saw, and behold, a pale horse: and he that sat upon him, his name was Death; and Hades followed with him. And there was given unto them authority over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with famine, and with death, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

-- New International
Revelation 6:8  I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

 


648 posted on 05/25/2005 6:52:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: flevit
'the less the bible is read the more it gets interpreted.'

WOW!

You almost make me change MY tagline!

649 posted on 05/25/2005 6:54:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
I'm not worried.
 

 John 6:28-29
 28.  Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
 29.  Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
 
 1 John 3:23
   And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.
 
Neither am I; now............

650 posted on 05/25/2005 6:58:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
And that graph is supposed to show... what?

The rate of energy absorption by water molecules in relation to frequency. The best transfer of energy occurs at wavelengths of 1-3cm and fall off rapidly afterward.
Microwave ovens operate at a "de-tuned" 12cm to allow the waves to penetrate further into and through the food, otherwise all of the energy would be absorbed in the first layer of water encountered. Your hamburger would be jerky dust on the outside but still bloody on the inside.

651 posted on 05/25/2005 6:59:31 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: Elsie

(How does one mistype and get yhey for THEN????)


652 posted on 05/25/2005 7:00:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

Good heavens. No need to consider intelligent design as a factor in any of those phenomena. Nosiree.


653 posted on 05/25/2005 8:19:46 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Elsie

I chose "BeHoldAPaleHorse" to honor a great American, the late William Milton Cooper.


654 posted on 05/25/2005 9:00:09 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Elsie

The Four Horsemen of Notre Dame

655 posted on 05/25/2005 10:41:25 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

They ALL look pale to me!


656 posted on 05/25/2005 12:15:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: dread78645

Cool!


I wonder if the military (or the Evil Dr. No) has thought about focused battlefield microwave-cook-your-enemy devices??


657 posted on 05/25/2005 12:17:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
THIS guy??

COOPER, MILTON WILLIAM

Known as Bill Cooper, this is one man who the UFO community does not trust anymore. He used to work for the US Air Force and claims to have then moved on into Naval Intelligence. He made his debut on PARANET with a report on a UFO sighting he had whilst on the USS Tiru, a US Naval submarine. That report was accepted in good faith. He then began to send in details about various secret projects that he alleged the US governments were involved in during his time in intelligence. When asked for evidence to back his claims up by UFO researchers, he replied abusively. His reports continued to be sent in and the researchers still questioned him about backup evidence. Eventually he was barred from Paranet. He still wrote the reports and sent them into various bulletin boards anonymously, this time accusing the UFO researchers that questioned his authenticity as people who are working for the government to spread DISINFORMATION to the public. Bill Cooper is now a highly paid lecturer who lectures about his "experiences"and also claims that JFK was assassinated by the driver of the car because he wanted to make details about UFOs public and that we had bases on the Moon and on Mars built in the 1950's. Evidence : none for the bases and a seventh generation copy of the film showing the assassination that is very bad quality. He also claims that the aliens in US TV series "Alien Nation" are real aliens who were employed as part of an indoctrination program so that the public will accept the reality of aliens more easily. Bill Cooper's sources for his hypothesis is a mixture of the claims of PAUL BENNEWITZ, BILL MOORE, JOHN LEAR and BOB LAZAR and added a few unfounded theories he invented himself. When Bob Lazar was on a phone-in in 1989 ("Billy Goodman's Happening", 21/11/89) whilst he was going public, Cooper called in and said that he had talked to Lazar for over a year and that he had checked out his claims and they are all genuine. Then, some months later, Cooper changes his mind and says that Lazar is a fraud and had always known he was a fraud ever since he first went public. This is just one example of the many U-turns and inconsistencies that Cooper has carried out over the years.


658 posted on 05/25/2005 12:26:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
Mr Lazar claims to have worked at Los Alamos, but he gets the management terms wrong. It's analogous to claiming to have been in the Navy at the rank of sergeant.
659 posted on 05/25/2005 12:30:05 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Elsie

Some of those U-turns were made by impostors claiming to be Bill Cooper.


660 posted on 05/25/2005 12:54:08 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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