[Doctor Stochastic]

Not only clueless, the rest of the creationists are supporting him by their silence. Maybe they are that clueless. It may not be wrong to assume that their religious knowledge is of the same quality as their scientific knowledge and should be treated equivalently.

[PatrickHenry]

I still think we should do with with the Jovian moons. A telescope and clock will do the job. No need to worry about wavelengths and frequencies. And we'd be doing it with "real light," not this microwave stuff. Not only that, but because the measurements need to be made over a period of probably six months, to get some extra distance between us and Jupiter, we could keep this thread going nearly forever. But then, we'd probably have endless arguments about the "assumption on faith" that the solar system exists. Might be too much work.

[flevit]

Job 38:16
Have you entered the springs of the sea?

Ecclesiastes 1:6
The wind goes toward the south,
And turns around to the north;
The wind whirls about continually,
And comes again on its circuit.

how long did it take "science" to catch up to the Bible?