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Deal averts filibuster showdown
MSNBC ^ | May 23, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/23/2005 4:48:12 PM PDT by kennedy

Centrists from both parties reached a compromise Monday night to avoid a showdown on President Bush’s stalled judicial nominees and the Senate’s own filibuster rules, officials from both parties said.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; cowards; filibuster; harryreidisaliar; rats; rino; traitors; ussenate; whimps; whiners; wierdos; wusses
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1 posted on 05/23/2005 4:48:12 PM PDT by kennedy
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Under the agreement, Democrats would pledge not to filibuster any of Bush’s future appeals court or Supreme Court nominees except in “extraordinary circumstances.”
2 posted on 05/23/2005 4:49:53 PM PDT by kennedy ("Why would I listen to losers?")
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To: kennedy

HS HS HS HS


3 posted on 05/23/2005 4:50:28 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: kennedy

Simply disgusting.

I am sick of RINO McCain.


4 posted on 05/23/2005 4:50:34 PM PDT by RWR8189 (I Will Sit on My Hands in 2008 Instead of Voting for McCain)
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To: kennedy
Who would have ever thought that the GOP Senators would have folded to Democratic Demands?


I am Shocked!

The last time I was this surprised was this morning when the sun came up.

5 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:02 PM PDT by jsbankston
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To: kennedy

Uh oh.


6 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:05 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: kennedy

I thought Owens and Clark were extremist and a threat to the nation.


7 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:07 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: kennedy

We've been snookered again. Picture Lucy whipping the football out from under Charlie Brown for about the millionth time.


8 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:32 PM PDT by hershey
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To: kennedy
I just left the GoP.

I'm done with them.

Cowards.
9 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:49 PM PDT by AlGone2001 (You will never know that Jesus is all you need, until Jesus is all you've got-Mother Teresa)
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To: Coop; FreeReign

ping


10 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:58 PM PDT by cardinal4 (No Compromise on Filibusters!)
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To: kennedy

The Capitol switchboard is still open.

Leave as many voicemail messages with the RINOs as you can.

Then keep calling them tomorrow morning when the staffers get in.

202 224 3121


11 posted on 05/23/2005 4:52:32 PM PDT by GEC
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To: kennedy
Postpones comes closer.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

12 posted on 05/23/2005 4:52:37 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: cardinal4

The GOP is now dead to me. Bill Frist....ah why even bother..


13 posted on 05/23/2005 4:52:48 PM PDT by cardinal4 (No Compromise on Filibusters!)
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To: kennedy

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


14 posted on 05/23/2005 4:53:06 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (You should be TERRIfied that you may someday be SCHIAVOed to death!)
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To: kennedy
Bill Frist cannot control the RINO's in the Senate. The Democrats win again.
15 posted on 05/23/2005 4:53:15 PM PDT by Woodworker
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To: kennedy

{extraordinary circumstances.}

The RATS consider extraordinary cirmcumstances the same way as abortion doctors consider health reasons for abortions.


16 posted on 05/23/2005 4:53:16 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: kennedy; Howlin

What the HELL is this????????

We don't need a deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am furious. I will NOT SEND ANY MORE MONEY TO THE REPUBS. We didn't NEED a deal and we don't WANT a deal!!!


17 posted on 05/23/2005 4:53:25 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: kennedy
"... Democrats would pledge not to filibuster any of Bush’s future appeals court or Supreme Court nominees except in “extraordinary circumstances.”

Translation of “extraordinary circumstances.” = if Bush makes a nomination

19 posted on 05/23/2005 4:53:53 PM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: kennedy

Was Warner kissing Sheets Byrd during the press conference? It looked like they might be lovers.


20 posted on 05/23/2005 4:53:55 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: kennedy

Sounds like the democrats got everything they wanted. Dang Republicans CAVED again. If Lindsey Graham had anything to do with this i'm going to e-mail him and go to his office pesonally.


21 posted on 05/23/2005 4:54:06 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: kennedy

Then line them up and vote on them. I want to see.


22 posted on 05/23/2005 4:54:16 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: kennedy
“extraordinary circumstances.”

EVERYONE is an "extradordinary circumstance" to the dems!

Gads, this better not stand.

23 posted on 05/23/2005 4:54:27 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: SittinYonder

The fallout for the RHINOS will be E-NOR-MOUS!


24 posted on 05/23/2005 4:54:34 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Sheiite.)
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To: kennedy

The democrats are "allowing" the minority, women judges they didn't dare stop. And they are retaining the right to filibuster others, including to the Supreme Court. OY. And unless I'm wrong, the republicans are agreeing not to change the rules at that time. They are total idiots.


25 posted on 05/23/2005 4:54:34 PM PDT by Williams
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To: kennedy

They are more interested in the members of their exclusive little "country club" than in the Constitution. It's time that we open up the membership to other folksm that believe in standing for something beside elections.


26 posted on 05/23/2005 4:54:41 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist
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To: kennedy

The GOP should be renamed The POS. ANd they wonder why conservatives like me are withdrawing from the political arena.


27 posted on 05/23/2005 4:54:53 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: kennedy
"Earlier, officials from both parties, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the agreement would clear the way for yes or no votes on some of Bush’s nominees but make no guarantee.

And the Republicans fell for THIS???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

28 posted on 05/23/2005 4:54:55 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: RWR8189

Let's think about this for a second. It may not be such a bad deal. There are still questions whether the GOP actually had the votes to carry out a rule change.

Now it has back the dems into a corner. If they try to block a supreme court nomination, the GOP can always change rules right?


29 posted on 05/23/2005 4:54:57 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President - 2008)
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To: kennedy

I cant just hear it now.

"If this isnt extraordinary I dont know what is.."

Anyone wanna bet that the dems will use that as an excuse? I bet they'll do the deed before the year is out and before 6 nominees are sent up.


30 posted on 05/23/2005 4:55:09 PM PDT by crz
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To: AlGone2001

I mailed my change of registration in this morning. Welcome to the growing ranks of the unaffiliated.


32 posted on 05/23/2005 4:55:18 PM PDT by NCSteve
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To: Endeavor
I agree with your sentiments. However, this is the media "spin." Look at what has happened. We get Owens. Whoever is up next, Frist will do the SAME EXACT THING, and either we'll be right back here, or there will be another "nuke."

This may---I repeat---MAY have been a way for the Dems to 'save face" despite another horrendous loss. If that's the case---and I again say IF---then who cares how it "looks." I want the judges, not the appearance.

33 posted on 05/23/2005 4:55:24 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: AlGone2001

This is a sad day for the Republican party, and the conservative movement in this country! The Dems will likely gain in Congress in 2006 because of this kind of cowardice. What's the matter with you folks in Arizona????? Is McCain the best you can do??


34 posted on 05/23/2005 4:55:39 PM PDT by johnpaul
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To: AlGone2001
It sounds as though all ten will get a vote from the entire senate. I'm glad however, that both of the men I contributed to last cycle (Burr and Coburn) had nothing to do with this...

No need to leave the GOP. Just keep sending the money to better candidates.

35 posted on 05/23/2005 4:55:53 PM PDT by Meldrim
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To: All

Republicans did not cave. A handful of RINOS apparently did.


36 posted on 05/23/2005 4:56:13 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: kennedy
I want to see the b*stards punished. No access to the White House. Pet projects killed. Primary challengers encouraged. The language is nebulous,like "health of the mother" on abortion. And you know where that led.
37 posted on 05/23/2005 4:56:16 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Semper Paratus
Although I know I'm a big (R) sheep for asking this, is there a good resource for phone numbers/e-mail addresses for the Senate. It seems that every time I look on the Senators' personal sites, they give you some form to fill out (that no one ever reads).

The Republican Party is on the precipice of doing some great things, but bending over like this puts all of that in jeopardy.
38 posted on 05/23/2005 4:56:19 PM PDT by broncozr
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To: jakerobins

Lindsey Graham was AT the news conference. Stupid, sorry traitor of a senator.


39 posted on 05/23/2005 4:56:22 PM PDT by ilovew (Karl Rove is my role model.)
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To: kennedy
"For their part, Republicans agreed not to support an attempt to strip Democrats of their right to block votes."

In other words the Republicans surrendered to the minority.

40 posted on 05/23/2005 4:56:31 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: LS

Agreed. The objective now is the 8 judges. If all 8 pass, it is a win.


41 posted on 05/23/2005 4:56:36 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: AlGone2001
I'm done with the feckless Republicans as well. They had the options of (a) everything to win or (b) everything to lose. Of course, they chose the latter. I wonder which nominees they will throw under the bus tires? Moreover, haven't these idiots learned that, to a Democrat, "extraordinary circumstances" is defined as "anyone who isn't a Democrat?"

I believe now, more than ever, that this country has only one party. The Repubocrats, hypocrites, elitists and cowards all, are firmly in charge. From here on out it is every man for themself.

42 posted on 05/23/2005 4:56:51 PM PDT by George Stupidnopolis
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To: Perdogg

It seems like Frist wouldn't have to votes to stop a potential filibuster on a SCOTUS nominee.


43 posted on 05/23/2005 4:56:51 PM PDT by RWR8189 (I Will Sit on My Hands in 2008 Instead of Voting for McCain)(No Money for the NRSC)
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To: kennedy

Underneath the chestnut tree;
The Republicans sold you, and the GOP sold me.


44 posted on 05/23/2005 4:56:52 PM PDT by Cyclopean Squid (Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils. --Hector Berlioz)
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To: kennedy

Weak.


45 posted on 05/23/2005 4:57:02 PM PDT by agooga (The Kyoto Protocol will lower global temperature by .07 degrees.)
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To: Baynative

Well the good news is that DU is fuming.

Check out this post. (WARNING BAD LANGUAGE)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1494562&mesg_id=1494727&page=


46 posted on 05/23/2005 4:57:13 PM PDT by jabber-jabber-jabber
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To: Williams

My understanding is they retain the right to change the rules.


47 posted on 05/23/2005 4:57:14 PM PDT by Wiser now (A bitter, sour old woman is the crowning work of the devil.)
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To: All

I took more heat on this forum from people who thought I was being unreasonably tough on Frist. I was told that I "wasnt paying attention" and that "Frist is a doctor, he is methodical and is counting the votes before forcing a showdown." I was flamed by the elites who kept saying, "next week". Of all the times I have wanted to be right about something, this time was NOT it..


48 posted on 05/23/2005 4:57:17 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Where were you the day the GOP died? May 23, 2005)
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To: kennedy

If this holds I just won $10 on a bet. I knew Frisk would cave.


49 posted on 05/23/2005 4:57:51 PM PDT by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: kennedy

This sickening maneuver virtually ensures a Hillary Presidency. The Dems are emboldened and enough of us who used to be proud to be associated with the Republican party will just give up...if the Reps can't stand up to the Dems when they are in the majority what is the use in supporting them? Frist is toast for national office...McCain can run but only as a Dem or Independent.
Lindsay Graham - forget it!
The margin for victory is thin, but with this move it will be impossible to obtain.
President Hillary -- get used to it because it was just brought to you by RINOS !!


50 posted on 05/23/2005 4:58:02 PM PDT by Froggie
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