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Where Girls Marry Rapists for Honor - (...just when you think you've heard it all, there's THIS!)
LA TIMES.COM ^ | MAY 24, 2005 | Amberin Zaman

Posted on 05/24/2005 6:14:00 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Rojda was 13 when she was raped two years ago by a neighbor in this hardscrabble Kurdish province. In order to "cleanse" her honor, she was forced to marry her attacker in an unofficial Islamic-style ceremony. He later was convicted of raping a 7-year-old boy and has been imprisoned.

But Rojda's troubles were far from over, according to an account of her ordeal provided by her family and attorneys. She allegedly was raped again in March by her father-in-law, who she said demanded she prostitute herself to earn her keep. When Rojda refused, the relatives and attorneys charge, a group of men held her down and sliced off her nose.

Police raided their home after being tipped off by neighbors, who heard her cries. The men were briefly detained, then set free — though they have since been rearrested.

Rojda's story is not unusual: Human rights groups and Turkish officials say violence against women is widespread in Turkey, though statistics are hard to come by because so many attacks go unreported. They blame the violence on poverty, a lack of education and the patriarchal structure prevalent in much of Turkish society.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: forced; marriages; nukemecca; rape; rapists; rights; society; swine; turkey; turkish; womens
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In Iran, rape victims don't even have the "choice" of marrying the perpetrators. Raped women are stuck into holes in the ground, with only their heads exposed. Then, they are stoned to death.......for "adultery!"
1 posted on 05/24/2005 6:14:00 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Just depressing.


2 posted on 05/24/2005 6:18:21 PM PDT by wizardoz (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T out to get you.)
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To: CHARLITE
This is no surprise coming from a backwards society that promotes female genital mutilation.

Religion of horror and death.

3 posted on 05/24/2005 6:19:25 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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To: Alamo-Girl; WarPaint; SJackson; dennisw; Salem; yonif; Alouette; F15Eagle; Cornpone; kellynla; ...

Ping! - Remember that this is "the religion of peace"


4 posted on 05/24/2005 6:19:31 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Ward Churchill should pack his bags and go join a tribe in Darfur, SUDAN, with KOFI ANNAN........!!)
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To: CHARLITE

Yeah I was thinking the same thing as I read the story. If she hadn't have married the guy then her family would have killed her.

reminds me of the Kuwaiti guy that went to India and married a very pretty girl, with the family's consent. He went back to Kuwait after thirty days, but before he left he sold her to a brothel. The family had a hell of a time getting her out.


5 posted on 05/24/2005 6:21:21 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: CHARLITE

"This year in the province of Batman, east of Diyarbakir, an 18-year-old girl was shot to death by her brother for wearing blue jeans."

The problem isn't "education".

The problem is ISLAM and their evil koran that advocates this crap.


6 posted on 05/24/2005 6:26:40 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: CHARLITE
Ping! - Remember that this is "the religion of peace"

I have ceased being shocked at the levels of barbarism these animals will sink to and the more I learn, the more I am convinced that every last one of them needs to be removed from the face of the earth.

7 posted on 05/24/2005 6:27:12 PM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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To: Americanexpat

And they call Americans "Infidels." These women have no rights, no protection, and way out. How barbaric.


9 posted on 05/24/2005 6:27:38 PM PDT by cynblogger
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To: CHARLITE

Islam is a social disease.


10 posted on 05/24/2005 6:30:31 PM PDT by charleywhiskey
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To: isthisnickcool
This is no surprise coming from a backwards society that promotes female genital mutilation.

Backwards society, yes.

Religion of horror and death.

Religious practice, no, though there are some who use religion to justify it & that religion can be Muslim, Christian, Jewish or any number of African pagan religions.

11 posted on 05/24/2005 6:36:11 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: CHARLITE
"He later was convicted of raping a 7-year-old boy "

There have been some threads of FR that claim man/boy sex is OK under Islamic law. That true?

12 posted on 05/24/2005 6:40:36 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

A culture that creates a great deal of sorrow.

13 posted on 05/24/2005 6:43:45 PM PDT by SJackson (I don't think the red-tiled roofs are as sturdy as my asbestos one, Palestinian refugee)
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To: CHARLITE

Oh joy. Something else for show & tell time during diversity days in the local public schools.


14 posted on 05/24/2005 6:46:17 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: SJackson

These are some sick f*cks we are dealing with over there.


15 posted on 05/24/2005 6:47:16 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: nmh

Honor killing pre-dates Islam. On May 2, a Christian father in Ramallah killed his 22-year-old daughter after she told him she wanted to marry a Muslim man.


16 posted on 05/24/2005 6:47:58 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
Religion of horror and death.

Religious practice, no, though there are some who use religion to justify it & that religion can be Muslim, Christian, Jewish or any number of African pagan religions.

Yes, anyone can justify their actions as being true to their religion; however, in the case of islam, those kinds of actions are required! Study islam carefully: it is an evil, ferocious wolf in sheep's clothing!


17 posted on 05/24/2005 6:48:44 PM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: CHARLITE

it's a religion of peace, don't'cha know?


18 posted on 05/24/2005 6:49:30 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: texson66
However, in the case of islam, those kinds of actions are required!

You are wrong. FGM is *not* required by Islam.

19 posted on 05/24/2005 6:53:08 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: CHARLITE
In Iran, rape victims don't even have the "choice" of marrying the perpetrators. Raped women are stuck into holes in the ground, with only their heads exposed. Then, they are stoned to death.......for "adultery!"

under iranian law, a woman who is raped must be able to prove she struggled sufficiently.

a girl was given 100 lashes for claiming rape but being unable to prove it sufficiently. this is horrific enough. stonings do occur, but are reasonably rare and only for married adulterers - unmarried people involved in adultery get lashes. the case of a rape victim being stoned to death would be quite rare, but yes it does happen. the law and judges make it hard for a woman to prove rape, and if it isnt rape, then it must be...

its noting that males may also be stoned, and while this is much less common than females, it has occurred. the law states that a victim who escapes is free, but many do escape and are dragged back so the job may be finished. one woman was shot after escaping. they cant even seem to follow their own barbaric laws - the mob rules.

the dichotomy between the educated western freindly people in iran and the poor religious extremists is great in iran. for example, the difference between urbane tehranis and those from the holy city of qom is like people from a different country. those who post here blustering about nuking tehran miss the point entirely - nuke tehran and some of the larger cities and you are removing the america freindly majority. its the extremist minority that are in control that are our enemy. they are the ones controlling the judiciary and they are the ones stoning people to death.

when rape is proven (not that easy to do), the rapists are hung in iran, and yes it does happen. also, not long ago a woman accused of murder was using a rape defence. she was unsiccessful and is to be hung.
20 posted on 05/24/2005 6:55:22 PM PDT by joemo
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To: CHARLITE
This year in the province of Batman, east of Diyarbakir, an 18-year-old girl was shot to death by her brother for wearing blue jeans.

Islime is a cancer on humanity. "Honor killings"? Sounds to me like the males of islime have neither honor nor manhood, so to feel like men they have to abuse women. Bunch of worthless POS barbarians.....

21 posted on 05/24/2005 6:58:00 PM PDT by Bombardier (Islam isn't a religion, it's a perversion.)
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To: GoLightly
Yeah and I'm Santa Claus.

There is NO "honor killing" advocated in the Bible as it is in the koran. Gimme a break! Peddle those lies to someone else.
22 posted on 05/24/2005 6:59:15 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: King Prout
On Drudge today a Baptist preacher is catching hell because a sign out front says the Quran should be flushed in the toilet.

Religionists of all stripes can argue about differing points of their creeds, but Islam is a slam dunk, brainwashing, superstition, that has no place in any culture. I can just see my preacher saying I must stone my daughter or cut off her nose. Or how about blowing yourself up hoping to put an eye out with your clavicle or something. Can't these people wake up on their own. It's time to be excommunicated and praise God for it.

Now watch my post be pulled for hate speech!

23 posted on 05/24/2005 7:03:05 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: wagglebee; Chieftain

wow..you summed it all up! A brilliant political analysis that says it all without all the PC and "cultural" crap.
I just want to know where the F..K are all the femminists?
The silence is deafening...and has been for YEARS from American women! I will give Jay Leno's wife credit..cause she was involved in filmmaking about these horrible conditions for years.


24 posted on 05/24/2005 7:03:12 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: CHARLITE

Sounds like that country could use a good dose of right-wing wacko Christian fundamentalism.


25 posted on 05/24/2005 7:04:10 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Leftists would have no standards at all)
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To: CHARLITE

We need more of our dignitarys paying homage to Islam
in places like Jewish temples rubber stamping their co-option by muzzies who lie and call it their own 'holy site'

Of course any site where the wholly profit relieved himself of any of his
various urges seems to be a holy site...

imo


26 posted on 05/24/2005 7:05:17 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: chuckles

nahhh, your post is within TOS posting guidelines.


27 posted on 05/24/2005 7:06:27 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: nmh

It's not advocated in the Bible. It's cultural.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/4522465.stm


28 posted on 05/24/2005 7:06:55 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: CHARLITE

29 posted on 05/24/2005 7:09:00 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: GoLightly
"Her name was Faten. She was 22-years-old, a Palestinian Christian from the West Bank city of Ramallah."

Then don't associate it with Christianity. It's not Christian. It's sick.
30 posted on 05/24/2005 7:09:29 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Drew68
" the more I am convinced that every last one of them needs to be removed from the face of the earth."

Alas, that's the conclusion I've come to. Just what would be the method for doing this, since there are over a billion of them worldwide, including the NON-ASSIMILATING Muslim population here, which was 600,000 in 1960 and is now SIX MILLION and growing.

How can we "remove" a billion 7th century people "from the face of the earth??"

Char

31 posted on 05/24/2005 7:13:51 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Ward Churchill should pack his bags and go join a tribe in Darfur, SUDAN, with KOFI ANNAN........!!)
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To: nmh

I wasn't trying to say that it was a Christian practice. I'm saying that the crap is advocated by a gnarly backwards culture & Islam followed in that area, rather than starting it. If you say it's due to Islam, you're missing much of the reason the crap goes on.


32 posted on 05/24/2005 7:14:56 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly

It's part of the religion of Islam and stated in the koran. That's the point I was trying to make.


33 posted on 05/24/2005 7:15:43 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

It was going on before the Koran was written. The Koran perpetuated what was already there & it also kept a huge pile of people stuck in the dark ages by embracing it as a "good" practice.


34 posted on 05/24/2005 7:18:47 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: nmh

Any time there is a criticism of Islam, some clueless wonder will deflect to Christianity. Never fails.


35 posted on 05/24/2005 7:21:27 PM PDT by Tx Angel
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To: Tx Angel

"Any time there is a criticism of Islam, some clueless wonder will deflect to Christianity. Never fails."

Exactly!


36 posted on 05/24/2005 7:22:28 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

BTW, the bigger point I was trying to make was that you could Christianize these people & you'd discover that there would be more Christian "honor killings" than you ever imagined. It would kinda be like the situation we find where you have preachers that have somehow found justification for "gay rights" in something written in the Bible.


37 posted on 05/24/2005 7:25:24 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly

You found a biblical verse that justifies homosexuality?

There are no comparisons between Christianity and Islam. In re to Christianity, the NT (peaceful verses) abrogated OT (violent verses). In re to Islam, Medinan (violent verses) abrogated Meccan (peaceful).


38 posted on 05/24/2005 7:39:50 PM PDT by Tx Angel
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To: joemo

A rapist was publicly hung 2 days ago at the same location the crime took place.


39 posted on 05/24/2005 7:44:07 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: GoLightly

"BTW, the bigger point I was trying to make was that you could Christianize these people & you'd discover that there would be more Christian "honor killings" than you ever imagined. It would kinda be like the situation we find where you have preachers that have somehow found justification for "gay rights" in something written in the Bible."

Are you on something? Honor killings are NOT Biblical. A Christian is one who follows Christ and how you follow Christ is following what is in the BIBLE!

As for clergy that justify "gay rights" in the Bible - LOL! They sure aren't "Christians". That's not Biblical either.

As I stated earlier, honor killings ARE IN THE KORAN and part of their religion. Honor killings are NOT justified in the Bible and not part of Christianity. See the difference?


40 posted on 05/24/2005 7:46:51 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Tx Angel
You found a biblical verse that justifies homosexuality?

No. Did this clueless wonder write something that was too difficult for someone of your superior intellect to comprehend?

There are no comparisons between Christianity and Islam.

I did not attempt to equate the two. Christianity is superior. There is no doubt about that in my mind.

In re to Christianity, the NT (peaceful verses) abrogated OT (violent verses). In re to Islam, Medinan (violent verses) abrogated Meccan (peaceful).

No, duh!

41 posted on 05/24/2005 7:51:24 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Calpernia

Sickening. And Hollywood wants us to think that Christians are the villians.


42 posted on 05/24/2005 7:51:31 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Fight them)
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To: Sam's Army

bump


43 posted on 05/24/2005 7:54:13 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: CHARLITE

"Another big part of tackling violence against women involves educating men, said Meltem Agduk, a consultant with the United Nations Population Fund".



Good luck, dummie!


44 posted on 05/24/2005 8:02:35 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: GoLightly

I never claimed to be of "superior intellect" -- however I do not have the mentality of a gumball, either. And I am quite knowledgeable when it comes to Islam.

You brought up preachers justifying gay rights as an analogy. As no one can find a biblical verse justifying homosexuality, nor is there a biblical verse justifying honor killings.

Sorry if I had insulted you earlier, but I'm a bit sick and tired of Christianity being brought up every time Islam is criticised. Islam is an evil ideology. Jesus loves you. Allah wants you dead.


45 posted on 05/24/2005 8:09:10 PM PDT by Tx Angel
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To: CHARLITE

This is a reflection of the Religion of peace. To think that ANYONE, no matter how far Left they may be, takes these animals for anything more than the barbarians they are, is utterly amazing. They are responsible for just about all wars going on currently around the world, openly advocate violence against innocent people, including many of their clerics from their mosques, are set on world domination, are openly hostile to Western culture and religion, and have NEVER contributed a thing toward the betterment of even their own society. They invent nothing, produce nothing, and only happen to have the good fortune of large oil reserves, with which they blackmail the rest of the world.

They must be defeated, once and for all, using ANY means necessary. If they are allowed to continue to embark on worldwide violence, they will go stronger and more dangerous. And anything they say or promise must be taken with a grain of sand from the desert that surrounds them.
Nothing they say or promise or agree to can be believed, and we must deal with them as we deal with a real clear and present enemy of our society, because that is what they represent to all of us.


46 posted on 05/24/2005 8:14:10 PM PDT by Zivasmate
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To: GoLightly
I wasn't trying to say that it was a Christian practice. I'm saying that the crap is advocated by a gnarly backwards culture & Islam followed in that area, rather than starting it. If you say it's due to Islam, you're missing much of the reason the crap goes on.

Honor killings are done by Islamics because of their barbarous religion. The number of honor killings done by Christians is infinitesimal compared to the Muhammadan numbers. So ya think Islam and Islamic culture just might have something to do with the prevalence of honor killings. Huh?

47 posted on 05/24/2005 8:16:36 PM PDT by dennisw (He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
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To: isthisnickcool
This is no surprise coming from a backwards society that promotes female genital mutilation.

What about a society that promotes male genital mutilation? Are they okay?

48 posted on 05/24/2005 8:23:38 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
What about a society that promotes male genital mutilation? Are they okay?

What society (or religion) promotes that?

49 posted on 05/24/2005 8:30:41 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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To: nmh
No, I'm not on anything.

Christianity would not be the cause of the honor killings. The culture that these people grew up in would be the cause. It is the reason that the Christian father in my first response to you killed his daughter. His cultural beliefs were louder than his religious beliefs. Making all of these people Christians is not going to automatically cure them of their cultural backwards beliefs.

As for clergy that justify "gay rights" in the Bible - LOL! They sure aren't "Christians". That's not Biblical either.

You don't have to convince me of that. Try to convince them though. If you tell them they aren't Christians, do you think they'll take your word for it? And you think I'm the clueless wonder? LOL

As I stated earlier, honor killings ARE IN THE KORAN and part of their religion.

Yes, it is part of their religion. What you stated earlier was that it was *created* in the Koran when it wasn't. The Koran borrowed it from the culture & made it part of the religion.

Honor killings are NOT justified in the Bible and not part of Christianity.

Yes, I know & said so earlier.

See the difference?

Of course I do. Do you do chocolate bunnies & colored eggs to celebrate Easter?

50 posted on 05/24/2005 8:32:31 PM PDT by GoLightly
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