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Military Was Set To Down Cessna(Rummy gave approval)
Washington Post ^
| 05/24/05
| Spencer S. Hsu and John Mintz
Posted on 05/25/2005 9:19:16 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Is Rumsfeld planning to A-OK the blowing up of any truck greater than 2 tons that enters the Washington DC area? These trucks are more of a threat than Cessnas with a 500 pound carrying capacity.
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posted on
05/25/2005 11:46:55 AM PDT
by
xrp
(Fox News Channel should rename itself the Missing Persons Network)
To: diogenes ghost
Very much the instructors fault.
There are established intercept signals that are in the regulations, and the instructor should have been aware of them. These com-out signals are designed to deal with NORDO situations. (And not knowing where you are and where you are going and not being able to hear/transmit on the radio--allegedly--then the instructor should have used his certified judgment and followed intercept procedures.
To: SBprone
Does anybody else think some recognition is in order?Don't worry. The gallant flyboy has been strutting his "right stuff" on the news/talk show circuit.
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posted on
05/25/2005 11:47:40 AM PDT
by
xrp
(Fox News Channel should rename itself the Missing Persons Network)
To: xrp
I'd not say "strut."
Guy flew a mission and everyone is curious and you can bet the pilot doesn't want to be there. . .talking about intercepting some pokey C-150. . .sheesh. No challenge at all. Bet the PR folks at DoD pushed his interviews, and I can understand why. People are curious.
"Gallant"? What is with you. . .the guy that was doing his mission. . .I hope you are joking.
To: diogenes ghost
These were not highly experienced pilots, and I assume they were using hand-held GPS for navigation. Is that legal now? (I am making reference to GA generally, not this particular flight). In the past, the FAA would not have permitted a pilot to make navigational decisions based on a consumer device like that, although he could have carried one for confirmation. (a lot could have changed in the 15 years I have been away).
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posted on
05/25/2005 11:59:57 AM PDT
by
steve86
To: Gunrunner2
I guess you haven't seen him on TV yet.
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posted on
05/25/2005 12:08:07 PM PDT
by
xrp
(Fox News Channel should rename itself the Missing Persons Network)
To: xrp
Actually. .caught a little of it.
NO big deal. . .but I guess many might be intimidated/jealous of an average fighter pilot and be unable to handle the ease in which an average fighter pilot expresses himself with competence and confidence. No mealy-mouth whimps allowed.
Show of hands. . .how many wanted to grow up and be a fighter pilot?. . .whoa. . .now, show of hands of everyone that wanted to grow up to sell insurance? How about work in a boring nine-to-five office? Anyone? (*crickets*)
To: Gunrunner2
but I guess many might be intimidated/jealous of an average fighter pilot I'm sorry that you feel intimidated.
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posted on
05/25/2005 12:39:42 PM PDT
by
xrp
(Fox News Channel should rename itself the Missing Persons Network)
To: SC_Republican; Coop
The President made the call, and that was to delegate the decision to his authorized agent, Secretary Rumsfeld.
That's how things are supposed to work, IMHO.
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posted on
05/25/2005 12:46:19 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
To: SC_Republican
'I've got a problem with the SecDef approving this....it should be the President's call.'
Why? He is the first civilian in the CofC. And the only one besides the President.
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posted on
05/25/2005 1:06:40 PM PDT
by
xone
To: xrp
Yeah. . .they scare me to death. . *snicker*
To: TigerLikesRooster
Sec. Rumsfeld denies the Times report.
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posted on
05/25/2005 1:07:48 PM PDT
by
subrosa sam
(subrosasam)
To: Gunrunner2
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posted on
05/25/2005 1:09:15 PM PDT
by
xrp
(Fox News Channel should rename itself the Missing Persons Network)
To: xrp
Oh. . .great. . now you got me giggling like a little girl
;-)
To: Gunrunner2
Very rare to find a private pilot, especially two inexperienced ones, who are familiar with military intercept proceedures. They DID try to communicate on 121.5 & another freq, to no avail (not their fault). Sure, they screwed up, but it should not have been the big deal it became.
To: BearWash
Well, VFR pilots are supposed to use sectional charts for pilotage, but GPS makes it so damned simple. Not illegal for VFR flight, but a cautious pilot would use both. Cutting corners is something we all do every day, rarely does it bite you in the arse.
To: diogenes ghost
Wasn't one a Instructor Pilot and the other his student?
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