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Homeschooler Nathan Cornelius wins national geography bee
Star Tribune ^ | May 25, 2005 | Greg Gordon

Posted on 05/25/2005 10:35:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

WASHINGTON -- Nathan Cornelius, a home schooled seventh grader from Cottonwood, Minn., won the 17th annual National Geographic Bee competition today, with a dazzling display of knowledge about places, cultures, cities, countries and rivers around the globe.

For winning the competition, which started with 5 million students nationwide, Nathan was awarded a $25,000 scholarship.

He bested nine other finalists during the taping of the event moderated by TV’s ''Jeopardy!'' host Alex Trebek.

He was one of two contestants to survive a double elimination first round that took 105 questions.

Then he outlasted Karan Takhar, 14, of Rhode Island,in an 11-question championship round.

The deciding question called on the contestants to identify the dammed river that forms artificial Lake Gatun in the Panama Canal system.

Nathan hardly hesitated before writing down his answer: the Chagres River. He couldn’t contain a big smile when Trebek noted that the two finalists had different answers.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: award; education; geography; geographybee; homeschool; homeschooling; pspl; turass; winners
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1 posted on 05/25/2005 10:35:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
But....has he ever been beat up for his lunch money?

If not...he hasn't been socialized.

2 posted on 05/25/2005 10:36:48 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Even the chickens under the porch know...to cork your pistol.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Here's your chance for your first Homeschool List Ping Ping!


3 posted on 05/25/2005 10:37:42 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: Osage Orange
Good job Nathan!


4 posted on 05/25/2005 10:37:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Awsome. I know that home schoolers have won the national contest and especially spelling bees before. It would be nice to seem some stats on this.


5 posted on 05/25/2005 10:38:13 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
called on the contestants to identify the dammed river that forms artificial Lake Gatun in the Panama Canal system.

Publik Skool Johnny's losing answer was, "I CAN'T IDENTIFY THE DAMNED RIVER!"

6 posted on 05/25/2005 10:38:50 AM PDT by martin_fierro (_____oooo_( )_oooo_____)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

One day, all children will be home schooled. The Internet makes it possible now - in virtual classrooms. The potential for learning and development is staggering to imagine.


7 posted on 05/25/2005 10:38:58 AM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: Osage Orange

Whoa!

This guy is impressive!!!

If he'd have gone to public school he would never be this knowledgeable!


8 posted on 05/25/2005 10:39:46 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Integrityrocks

"The deciding question called on the contestants to identify the dammed river that forms artificial Lake Gatun in the Panama Canal system. "

I didn't know the name of that dammed river either.



9 posted on 05/25/2005 10:40:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: Search4Truth

It's time to set kids free from the chains of pubic education.


10 posted on 05/25/2005 10:40:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Osage Orange

***ANNISTON, Ala. (AP) — A ten-year-old Anniston boy is in a lot of trouble today after he reportedly punched a teacher after she demanded he remove a headband he wore in the school lunchroom. .........***

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11 posted on 05/25/2005 10:41:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Clean cut. Happy. Bright.

I'd also bet he is a Christian ... .

His parents have every right to be very proud of him.


12 posted on 05/25/2005 10:42:17 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: martin_fierro
Publik Skool Johnny's losing answer was, "I CAN'T IDENTIFY THE DAMNED RIVER!"

LOL!! Ya got that right!

Most couldn't name 5 rivers in America, let alone some river in Panama.

FRegards,

13 posted on 05/25/2005 10:43:49 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Even the chickens under the porch know...to cork your pistol.)
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To: biblewonk

ping


14 posted on 05/25/2005 10:43:57 AM PDT by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a REAL capitalist.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Homeschooling's great, but it only seems viable (or necessary) for a small percentage of students.

Many places still have great public schools (in my area, Arlington, VA and Montgomery County, MD, come to mind).

Parochial or private schools are a good alternative (I live in DC and would want my kids to go to the British School in particular).

Finally, for some parents homeschooling just isn't feasible economically (such as a single mother living in Anacostia).


15 posted on 05/25/2005 10:45:24 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: Osage Orange

I went to public schools from grades 1-12, college, and grad school, and I never got properly socialized.

But as you imply, there are lots of opportunities for negative socialization.


16 posted on 05/25/2005 10:45:36 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances. Human nature is dependably stagnant.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yep, I saw that right after I posted.

Best FRegards,

17 posted on 05/25/2005 10:45:37 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Even the chickens under the porch know...to cork your pistol.)
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To: nmh

And I bet he likes his parents and converses freely with adults.


18 posted on 05/25/2005 10:45:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Osage Orange

I always made it a point to beat my younger brothers and steal their shiny nickles so they'd have that wonderful experience that my cruel parents were denying them ;-)


19 posted on 05/25/2005 10:47:58 AM PDT by JenB (Once and future homeschooler)
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To: martin_fierro

Ahuh, ahuh, ahuh... he said dam.


20 posted on 05/25/2005 10:49:07 AM PDT by irishtenor (Did I say something wrong? Or just intolerant?)
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To: newgeezer

25k. Righteous bucks!


21 posted on 05/25/2005 10:49:58 AM PDT by biblewonk (Socialism isn't all bad.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Homeschooling -- it's not just for scary religious types anymore!"
-Buffy (the Vampire Slayer)

Dan
(scary religious HSing type)


22 posted on 05/25/2005 10:50:47 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I can't imagine a better way to address so many problems in our society today, than to home school children, with all its attendant family values.


23 posted on 05/25/2005 10:52:23 AM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: BibChr

It's a national happening!


24 posted on 05/25/2005 10:52:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The most shocking aspect of this story is that it wasn't some Asian-American kid who won it.

/sarcasm off/

25 posted on 05/25/2005 10:53:03 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: Search4Truth

I absolutely agree.


26 posted on 05/25/2005 10:53:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: nmh
I'd also bet he is a Christian ... . His parents have every right to be very proud of him.

What if he's Jewish? Should his parents not be proud if him?

27 posted on 05/25/2005 10:53:55 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (If you can't get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you'd best teach it to dance.)
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To: ZGuy; DaveLoneRanger; All; everyone; SOMEONE; Everybody; Kim_in_Tulsa; diotima; TxBec; SLB; ...
Allow me...I still have the ping list until Friday!

If you want off this list, freepmail me. If you want on, freepmail DaveLoneRanger.

28 posted on 05/25/2005 10:54:19 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Homeschooler wins national geography bee"
Yea, but I bet he has no social life......just kidding!
Great job Nate!
29 posted on 05/25/2005 10:55:15 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Modernman
Homeschooling's great, but it only seems viable (or necessary) for a small percentage of students.

From my perspective....many more families could H.S. if they really wanted to. They just choose not to. I disagee with your assessment of necessity though.

Many places still have great public schools (in my area, Arlington, VA and Montgomery County, MD, come to mind).

I'm quite sure that is true....but for every "great" school you can name...I can name one's that aren't. I suspect..( I have no proof..) that the bad out weigh the good. But I admit to a bias here. Ha!!

Parochial or private schools are a good alternative (I live in DC and would want my kids to go to the British School in particular).

I agree. I take it, that you can't find a good public school in D.C.?

Finally, for some parents homeschooling just isn't feasible economically (such as a single mother living in Anacostia).

Agreed. But, will add..as I mentioned above....many families could, they just choose not to.

FRegards,

30 posted on 05/25/2005 10:56:33 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Even the chickens under the porch know...to cork your pistol.)
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To: Modernman
The single mom in Anacostia has more reason than anybody to homeschool. She should not dump her child into DC's government schools. Many have mothers or aunts or uncles who could help with baby sitting and/or homeschooling while the young single mom modifies her work schedule at Roy Rogers. She can take her youngster on great field trips to various Smithsonian museums, Theodore Roosevelt Island, Rock Island Park, The National Zoo, the C&O Canal and Georgetown's campus, The Titanic Memorial, Old Town Alexandria, Arlington Cemetery, and many other great spots with easy use of public transportation and minimal cost. All those spots are just a few miles from Anacostia.
31 posted on 05/25/2005 10:57:04 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances. Human nature is dependably stagnant.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And I bet you're right.
Home schooled kids are not 'limited' by the socialization constraints placed on them by the public school system.
My home schooled son could and would converse with ANYONE, ANY AGE.
When I was in school, one did not stray from one's grade.
1st graders only hung out with 1st graders, etc.
Home schooling detractors have it all wrong. It's the public school kids who are deprived of social immersion.


32 posted on 05/25/2005 11:00:54 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: JenB
I always made it a point to beat my younger brothers and steal their shiny nickles so they'd have that wonderful experience that my cruel parents were denying them ;-)

That's what big sister's are for....

: )

33 posted on 05/25/2005 11:05:11 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Even the chickens under the porch know...to cork your pistol.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
The single mom in Anacostia has more reason than anybody to homeschool. She should not dump her child into DC's government schools.

I agree. But how do you propose she homeschool while also working to put food on the table? Vouchers might be a good solution, in her case. The $13K a year DC spends per student in its "educational system" would be eagerly accepted by any of the neighboring school districts or in one of DC's private schools.

Many have mothers or aunts or uncles who could help with baby sitting and/or homeschooling while the young single mom modifies her work schedule at Roy Rogers.

The mothers and aunts are usually no more than 20 years older than their children in places like Anacostia. They're not retirees with lots of time on their hands (unless, of course, they're on welfare).

And as for male members of the family? In a place like Anacostia, a significant percentage are in jail or otherwise out of the picture.

34 posted on 05/25/2005 11:06:45 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: Integrityrocks
....It would be nice to seem some stats on this.

Yes. They're winning spelling and geography bees and being accepted to prestigious universities.

35 posted on 05/25/2005 11:07:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
WOOHOO!!! Way to go Nathan!!!

As a side note, we are heading to Washington D.C. this coming Sunday to participate in the National Spelling Bee. My son is the State Spelling Bee champion for Colorado. The bee is being held on June 1 and 2.

Those interested can see all of the details at: National Spelling Bee. If you look under the "Spellers" section and look for Speller #37 then you can read his biography.

Also, there was a newspaper videographer at the state spelling bee that put together a short 3-minute documentary. You can see it here.

There are 34 homeschoolers out of the 273 students participating in this years spelling bee. Please pray that a homeschooler would be victorious!
36 posted on 05/25/2005 11:07:26 AM PDT by politicket (Hypothesis of Evolution - HOE - The Secular Religion)
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To: Paisan
....Home schooling detractors have it all wrong. It's the public school kids who are deprived of social immersion.

Bingo!

37 posted on 05/25/2005 11:07:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: politicket

Homeschoolers: taking over the world, one kid at a time.

Congrats to your son! Hope he does well!


38 posted on 05/25/2005 11:10:40 AM PDT by JenB (Once and future homeschooler)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He may be able to know where places are, but what does he know about social justice?


39 posted on 05/25/2005 11:12:38 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Modernman
"...And as for male members of the family? In a place like Anacostia, a significant percentage are in jail or otherwise out of the picture."

And THAT is why she needs to homeschool especially if she has a male child. It is already happening with young Blacks in places like Chicago, Gary, Newark, etc. and the trend with continue.

Even is the singlemMom is 15 and her aunt is 30 they should have no trouble getting little Tamika's or little Jamil's writing up to and surpassing DC public school standards. In Russia, the public school day is only about three and a half hours for elementary students and homeschoolers often get by with less than that.
40 posted on 05/25/2005 11:12:58 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances. Human nature is dependably stagnant.)
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To: Osage Orange
From my perspective....many more families could H.S. if they really wanted to. They just choose not to.

I think that is true. For many people, homeschooling simply isn't necessary. Like I said, many public school districts are still quite good and wealthier people can afford private schools.

I'm quite sure that is true....but for every "great" school you can name...I can name one's that aren't. I suspect..( I have no proof..) that the bad out weigh the good. But I admit to a bias here. Ha!!

Depends on where you live. Of course, urban school systems tend to be bad (with some notable exceptions). However, school districts in richer areas are usually pretty good. Not necessarily because there is more money, but because yuppies tend to care about their childrens' education.

I agree. I take it, that you can't find a good public school in D.C.?

One of the problems is, in the richer parts of DC, parents send their kids to private schools pretty much across the board. So, there is no critical mass of concerned parents in even a place like Georgetown to keep an eye on the goings-on in the local school. It's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy- the only people who sends their kids to public school in DC are those who either don't care about their kids' education or those who simply have no other choice. Not a good recipe for a good school system.

41 posted on 05/25/2005 11:14:36 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: JenB

Thanks! Our desire is to see a homeschooler win. My son only began studying for the local level the beginning of February so we'll see how far he gets...


42 posted on 05/25/2005 11:18:35 AM PDT by politicket (Hypothesis of Evolution - HOE - The Secular Religion)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; nmh

Good point, HLL.

I was just going to point out that the kid looks an awful lot like the Jewish kids in my old neighborhood. A lot of Jewish families homeschool their kids!


43 posted on 05/25/2005 11:22:21 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: Monterrosa-24
And THAT is why she needs to homeschool especially if she has a male child. It is already happening with young Blacks in places like Chicago, Gary, Newark, etc. and the trend with continue.

I'd be curious to see which segments of the black population in those places is homeschooling. I'd be willing to bet that the people who are most likely to homeschool in those places are families where mom and dad are married. Again, the single mom in her late 20's or early 30's is not going to have the same flexibility.

Even is the singlemMom is 15 and her aunt is 30 they should have no trouble getting little Tamika's or little Jamil's writing up to and surpassing DC public school standards.

Well, that's a pretty low bar :-) Of course, there's one other point you may want to consider- the single mother in Anacostia, no matter how determined she is to give her kids a good education, is highly unlikely to have anything more than a high school degree. She might well be functionally illiterate herself (as are something like 40% of the kids who actually graduate from DC schools).

I think we can all agree that DC schools are pretty much the bottom of the barrell. If I was given supreme dictator powers, I would fire everyone in the system and give each kid a voucher to go to a school of his or her choice.

44 posted on 05/25/2005 11:22:24 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Since gov't schools generally don't teach geography, homeschoolers have a pretty much wide open field.


45 posted on 05/25/2005 11:24:18 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In the spirit of public education, let me be the first to call him a dork while giving him a cyber wedgie. ;) Congrats Nathan!! He has already forgotten what most kids never learn!


46 posted on 05/25/2005 11:25:38 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
But as you imply, there are lots of opportunities for negative socialization.

You mean like sex, drugs and rock and roll? Where would we all be without school?

47 posted on 05/25/2005 11:26:34 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ping me on future posts. My wife home schooled our two sons this year, ages 5 and 9. They both tested 2 to 4 grade levels higher in reading, writing and math as compared to their public school counterparts. Our nine year old converses comfortably with people of all ages and has a vocabulary comparable with most educated adults (minus the filth). His proudest possession is a wristwatch that beeps twice everyday at precisely 3:16 pm! His name is John.
48 posted on 05/25/2005 11:27:02 AM PDT by rockthecasbah
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To: FreedomSurge

"He may be able to know where places are, but what does he know about social justice?"

... or Johnny's two dads? Or global warming? Or the joys of promiscuity?

Poor kid, he doesn't have a chance. :)


49 posted on 05/25/2005 11:27:40 AM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I've said it before, but to us, that was the biggest payoff of homeschooling.


50 posted on 05/25/2005 11:28:07 AM PDT by dawn53
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