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Diamond, and unfortunately, many other researchers at my graduate alma mater, suffer from what I refer to as myopic diversity. That is they argue we should seek out every type of person there is and learn from them, but in reality all people are the same. If all people are the same and equal, what could you possibly learn from someone other than yourself?
1 posted on 05/26/2005 9:46:14 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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To: Tolik
You'd enjoy this. Diamond has a swollen head and has ridden entirely too far on a wave of unearned adulation.
2 posted on 05/26/2005 9:52:45 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (McCain's home state is the newsroom of The New York Times! -Hugh Hewitt)
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To: .cnI redruM
Good. That idiotic Diamond book has been driving me nuts for years now. Every PC RINO in the world loves and quotes from that book ad nauseam.
3 posted on 05/26/2005 9:59:39 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: kjenerette

...good reading.


4 posted on 05/26/2005 9:59:49 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...if we can keep it!)
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To: .cnI redruM
Diamond idealizes the Netherlands as one of the world’s most environmentally sound countries, where the need to manage the tides has made it an especially communitarian culture of the “polter”...

Aha, I get it. The Dutch zeitgeist is that of the communitarian culture of the polter, thus, presumably, making it a poltergeist.

Makes about as much sense as any of this nimrod's bizarre historical 'analysis'.

5 posted on 05/26/2005 10:04:15 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: .cnI redruM

I read his other book. PC diversity-cultural equivalency-evil white men claptrap.


6 posted on 05/26/2005 10:06:03 AM PDT by rlmorel
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To: .cnI redruM; neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

       Let me know if you want in or out

7 posted on 05/26/2005 10:12:02 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: .cnI redruM

Hanson is not only brilliant, but he hangs out in seminars with Jack Goldstone, one of the few sociologists I can stomach. Goldstone has an incredible article I require in my classes called "Cultural Orthodoxy, Risk, and Innovation." He argues that western traditions of competition, property rights, willingness to take risk via acceptance of failure, religious toleration and individual rights all made the West rich. It's a complex piece, but very powerful and when you combine it with VDH, you pretty much have the explanation for why the West kicks butt.


9 posted on 05/26/2005 10:20:23 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: .cnI redruM

I enjoyed Guns, Germs and Steel. I thought Diamond makes some excellent points, although I got very tired of his one-sided moralizing. He somehow always manages to work in a moral denunciation of any expansionism by white men, while merely reporting the no doubt equally genocidal expansionism of other groups.

Both Diamond and VDH are correct, in their different ways.

Diamond shows that without the tools and resources necessary to built a civilization, it won't get built.

VDH is correct that the mere presence of potential resources doesn't generate advancement. That requires a cultural orientation capable of using them effectively.


11 posted on 05/26/2005 10:35:37 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: .cnI redruM
Sir, you are too kind: What they are afflicted with is Marxism, and they suffer us to bear the din of their agitprop.

This screed is nothing more than a barely veiled attempt to degrade Western Civilization. It has become so vile in the academy that the mask can now be purely symbolic. The mask is merely a mannerism - it is not meant to conceal anything

I keep wanting to write a book that contrasts this period of learning with other decadent periods, say the Scholastic period or the early Georgian. Certainly these clowns today are in pursuit of substances as rare as phlogisten and alkahest

This is not history: It is modern alchemy. (I would wager, however, that the "author" would take this as a compliment.)

What a wholly ignorant, uncivilized and brutish lot have taken over our schools. Can we survive it?

It is like watching a orangutan with a rare oboe in its hands.

These people haven't th faintest clue about what a civilization is or what it is for. They think it is about tastes in coffees.

20 posted on 05/26/2005 12:53:54 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: .cnI redruM

Was a good book. Not a perfect one.


23 posted on 05/26/2005 1:16:30 PM PDT by dennisw (He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
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To: .cnI redruM

My profile is my counterpoint to the entire genre of "civilizational environmentalism." The most extreme example to refute it is the mere existance of places such as Australia. Even the US, to a great degree, as alluded to above via the San Diego - Tijuana juxtaposition, refutes it. Both the US and Australia had "underdeveloped" and "primitive" characteristics prior to European settlement. And now? They are shining cities on hills within the context of the 2500 year thread of Western Civilization. We are as such IN SPITE of the environment, and BECAUSE of overt participation in the greatest thread of Civilization ever the grace God's Earth!


24 posted on 05/26/2005 5:38:05 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: .cnI redruM

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26 posted on 05/27/2005 1:38:42 AM PDT by lainde
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