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To: freepatriot32; P-Marlowe; jude24

Considering that her t-shirt is actually challenging the authority of the principal and is directly targeted at his DUI, I'd say that the t-shirts are more than just individual expression of the girl's philosophy.

If she wore a t-shirt that said, "Our principal in a convicted drunk driver" there would actually be no difference.

Now....the issue isn't whether the message is true. The issue is that the courts HAVE upheld a school's right to prevent disruption.

Does that message, and that type of attack on the administration of the school, constitute a disruption.

I would say that it does.

The girl should lose this suit. The school should win.


21 posted on 05/26/2005 10:36:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

"The girl should lose this suit. The school should win. "
And then the principal should be fired.


27 posted on 05/26/2005 10:41:49 AM PDT by conejo99
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To: xzins
Considering that her t-shirt is actually challenging the authority of the principal and is directly targeted at his DUI, I'd say that the t-shirts are more than just individual expression of the girl's philosophy.

I can see wearing that t-shirt regardless of the principal's beveraged driving history. Here in the wine country of Sonoma County drunk drivers kill their fair share of people. If someone in my family were killed by a drunk driver are you saying that my children couldn't wear a shirt that said "don't drink and drive"?

I say the school is going to lose this one....

29 posted on 05/26/2005 10:43:45 AM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball! Win CCS!)
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To: xzins
Considering that her t-shirt is actually challenging the authority of the principal and is directly targeted at his DUI, I'd say that the t-shirts are more than just individual expression of the girl's philosophy.

Wher does it say that?

42 posted on 05/26/2005 10:50:30 AM PDT by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: xzins

Personally, I'm all for school uniforms. That solves the issue pretty quick.


48 posted on 05/26/2005 10:58:19 AM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: xzins
"Does that message, and that type of attack on the administration of the school, constitute a disruption. I would say that it does."

I have a "don't drink and drive" bumper sticker on my car. Should I be worried that it may cause a disruption when people like you and Principal Duck see it as an attack upon drunk drivers?

Your objections are silly.
49 posted on 05/26/2005 11:02:16 AM PDT by monday
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To: xzins
If the issue is disruption they have to fire the principal. It is his record that makes the shirts disruptive.
57 posted on 05/26/2005 11:15:54 AM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: xzins
The girl should lose this suit. The school should win.

I agree completely. When I as in high school back in the 1980s, we all understood that the school's first responsibility was to provide an orderly and safe learning environment. The school regulations clearly stated that "protests" would not be tolerated and would result in disciplinary measures. No one went around playing the gadfly.

Regarding Duck's refusal to comment, that is exactly what he should have done. Unlike Miss Smith, he didn't fire off with some smarmy comment on her background. Duck took his punishment for the DUI, so what exactly is her beef anyway? And speaking of being smarmy, Miss Smith needs this little lesson in manners and tact, because one day she'll run across someone who'll do more, perhaps a lot more, than decline to comment. Her actions are immature.

67 posted on 05/26/2005 11:33:11 AM PDT by aQ_code_initiate
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"They want everyone to fit into a mold and there's no room for individuality. These kids are our future, I think they should be treated with a little more respect. Their opinions count. Their thoughts count," Fletcher said.

Obviously, the chickee-poo and her mommy have some kind of problem with the principal.

These kids are our future

Scary thought.

I think they should be treated with a little more respect

Most kids, because of poor parenting, don't realize "respect" is something you earn, and it's a two-way street.

Their opinions count. Their thoughts count

No, they don't. And continuing to believe that they do will have dire consequences.
78 posted on 05/26/2005 11:49:33 AM PDT by motzman (now whatda?)
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To: xzins

Using your logic all programs in school that advocate "Don't Drink and Drive" should be banned becaus someone might relate it to the Principal and make the Principal feel embarrassed.

The truth is that the Principal should have been standing next to that girl in the hallways between classes pointing to the shirt and saying "She's right! Look at all the trouble I got into making that kind of mistake!"

The problem is that it sounds like the Principal is more concerned about his reputation than he is about the truth and sending a good message.

The truth should never be stepped on just because it disrupts things a little.


146 posted on 05/26/2005 2:42:54 PM PDT by gtwizard
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To: xzins
The girl should lose this suit. The school should win.

I don't agree.

*Disruptive* is an ambiguous term. Racial epithets, vulgar language, etc are disruptive.

'Don't drink and drive' is a national slogan printed on everything from shirts to bumperstickes.

It's his own guilt over his own actions (and getting caught for it) that's the problem

The girl is just a convenient whipping post.

157 posted on 05/26/2005 3:45:47 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am NOT a *legal entity* ..... nor am I a 'person' as defined and/or created by law!)
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