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Former NFL Quarterback Arrested (Todd Marijuanavich)
KCAL9 ^ | 5/26/05 | various

Posted on 05/26/2005 11:28:12 AM PDT by BurbankKarl

NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. (AP) Former NFL quarterback Todd Marinovich was arrested for investigation of violating his probation after being found in a public bathroom with apparent drug paraphernalia.

Marinovich, who has acknowledged that drug addiction derailed his once-promising football career, was being held in an Orange County jail pending a drug court hearing scheduled for next week.

A police officer found Marinovich in the bathroom May 20 with a bent spoon and syringe. The former quarterback fled on a bicycle but was arrested 15 blocks away, police said. On the police report, he listed his occupation as "unemployed artist."

Marinovich, who lives in Balboa, was first arrested on drug charges when he was a student at the University of Southern California. He earned nearly $2.3 million as a first-round draft pick of the then-Los Angeles Raiders in 1991, but was removed from the roster after two seasons due to his drug problem.

He later played football in Canada and the Arena Football League. He was arrested on drug charges in 1997, 2001 and last August. In last year's arrest, he was caught skateboarding in a prohibited area carrying methamphetamine and three syringes, police said.

He pleaded guilty to those charges and was sentenced to 90 days in jail and three years' probation.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; dope; drugs; football; libertarians; marinovich; nfl; raiders; waste; wodlist
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To: JeffAtlanta
Even with all of the restrictions and legal settlement, tobacco is still highly profitable.

But much less profitable than the illegal smokeable plant, marijuana.

121 posted on 05/26/2005 2:56:31 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: af_vet_1981

I can't believe you just said that, do you realy believe that statement.


122 posted on 05/26/2005 2:58:09 PM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: af_vet_1981
On what grounds would you restrict one drug more stringently than another? (And what possible grounds can there be for restricting the more harmful drug alcohol less than the less harmful drug marijuana?)

Marijuana produces more liberals. Therefore it is more dangerous than beer.

You didn't answer my first question. And as for your answer to the second: Either you're using humor to evade the question -- in which case I acknowldege the humor but call you on the evasion -- or you're making a claim for which no evidence has been presented.

123 posted on 05/26/2005 2:59:00 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: JeffAtlanta

If they were all outstanding QBs, you'd be able to tell me where they went. I said 2 minutes since I didn't want you to just google them. There's no way YOU can claim that they individually were great QBs without knowing anything about them. That's ludicrous. You are either making an assumption, or just want to argue the point for some silly reason.

Just to show what I was asking wasn't impossible, here's a list of 10 first round QBs in the last 30 or so years and where they went to college, without google:

Bradshaw: Louisiana Tech.
McNabb: Syracuse
McNown: UCLA
Aikman: UCLA
Manning 1: Ole Miss
Manning 2: Tennessee
Manning 3: Ole Miss
Marino: Pitt
Blackledge: Penn State
Leaf: Wassu.

That may be a tad more than 2 minutes, but I made my point.


124 posted on 05/26/2005 3:00:32 PM PDT by 1L
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To: Know your rights
But much less profitable than the illegal smokeable plant, marijuana.

Depends. Per unit maybe, but cigarettes are sold in huge volume.

125 posted on 05/26/2005 3:00:47 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: 1L

4 minutes. Sorry.


126 posted on 05/26/2005 3:01:01 PM PDT by 1L
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To: 1L
That may be a tad more than 2 minutes, but I made my point.

You made your point that you can name where 10 VERY FAMOUS QBs went to college? What kind of point is that? Most people don't know where Jerry Rice or Walter Payton went to college - does that mean that they were only average players in college?

NFL scouts don't draft "just average" college QBs in the first round.

127 posted on 05/26/2005 3:05:19 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: af_vet_1981
You did not introduce the issue that way. You immediately asserted that Bill Bennett had a gambling addiction.

Very well. I think he was being truthful when he said he lost a lot of money; and I think he was being untruthful when he claimed to be close to even. Therefore, I believe he has a gambling addiction.

Do you have a different view?

128 posted on 05/26/2005 3:08:12 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Asphalt

What a hyped up bust he was. I couldn't believe they gave him Stabler's old number.


129 posted on 05/26/2005 3:35:26 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: rabidralph

"I remember wondering whether the dad's experiment would work and whether this guy would grow up to be a great NFL player. I guess not."

Now, if he'd tried GOLF, his kid would have been able to hang with John Daly.


130 posted on 05/26/2005 3:38:42 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: Nachum
So were the Manning brothers, the children of pro quarterback Archie Manning. Spiritual guidance is as important as training.

Cut That Meat!, Cut That Meat!...Cut that Meat!.....

131 posted on 05/26/2005 6:58:04 PM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Make welfare as hard to get as a building permit)
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To: JeffAtlanta

>>Most people don't know where Jerry Rice or Walter Payton went to college - does that mean that they were only average players in college?<<

If I were to state that a player in college was "VERY GOOD to OUTSTANDING", and didn't know roughly where the player went to college, or didn't have something else to base that knowledge upon, the comment would be pretty foolish. Its one thing to say "I heard so-and-so won the Heisman" and assume he was a good college player (duh!). Or, you heard on Monday Night Football that a player was consensus all-american in college and you made the same assumption. Or, finally, you knew so-and-so went to a PAC 10 school in Oregon or Washington, but couldn't remember the exact one. You didn't make any of those comments on any player I mentioned. Besides that, which ones were "very good", which ones "outstanding", and which ones in between?

I don't believe that you can say that because a player was drafted in a certain round, that means he was a certain type of player. Many draft choices were based on what the drafting team considered potential. Others were drafted in certain rounds based upon factors that had nothing to do with ability. Hershal Walker was a 5th round draft choice in the NFL. Was he only 5th round talent, based on his college production? As few as one person, and at most perhaps 6 with varying inputs, make draft decisions. The draft is one of the last information sources to use to judge both quality of players and the quality of career they had in college.

You were stating their ability only knowing where they were drafted, and I bet if I had thrown a name in there of a QB that actually went undrafted, you probably wouldn't have caught it. Thus, you never even came close to proving your assertion, that these QBs were any better than average. They weren't.


132 posted on 05/26/2005 8:01:56 PM PDT by 1L
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To: rabidralph
Or Pee-We Herman...


133 posted on 05/26/2005 8:07:46 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: 1L
Hershal Walker was a 5th round draft choice in the NFL. Was he only 5th round talent, based on his college production?

This destroys all of your credibility on the subject. Hershel Walker signed with the USFL and was first player that they went after.

Hershel Walker was only drafted in the 5th round in the NFL because he was already under contract with USFL. The Cowboys took a chance that he would eventually be available. The same happened with Bo Jackson as he signed an MLB contract.

134 posted on 05/26/2005 9:49:47 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: 1L
Thus, you never even came close to proving your assertion, that these QBs were any better than average. They weren't.

If this thread wasn't already dead, I'd pull up stats for the players you listed and show that they were far from average.

135 posted on 05/26/2005 9:51:36 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Puppage

136 posted on 05/26/2005 9:57:11 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: JeffAtlanta

>> This destroys all of your credibility on the subject. <<

Oh, please. Don't say idiotic things.

>>Hershel Walker signed with the USFL and was first player that they went after.

Hershel Walker was only drafted in the 5th round in the NFL because he was already under contract with USFL.<<

I'm as aware of the Hershal Walker situation as anyone in human history. My point is that if you look strictly at draft history, as you did, you can't explain much of anything.

>>The same happened with Bo Jackson as he signed an MLB contract.<<

Not exactly. Jackson was the first pick in the '86 NFL draft. If I remember right, he was redrafted. Or maybe he was traded.


137 posted on 05/26/2005 9:59:22 PM PDT by 1L
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                      Dad!                         Give me back my TV you friggin' junkie!

138 posted on 05/26/2005 10:21:52 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: JeffAtlanta

>>I'd pull up stats for the players you listed and show that they were far from average.<<

I'll do you one better. I went to the USC stats and compared Marinovich to USC QBs in surrounding years. None of the compared QBs were 1st round draft picks, though guys like Rodney Peete and Rob Johnson had decent NFL careers. Also included were Sean Salsbury, Brad Otton, and John Fox. What did I find? Marinovich was above average on completion percentage. He was average on TD passes and yards passed for, and well below average on picks. Brad Otton had fewer picks, more TDs, and more yards. So, Marinovich was in the middle of 2 SLIGHTLY above average college QBs and 2 very average, perhaps below average, college QBs.

We are talking about USC teams that won an average of 7 games a year over this span. Very average if you ask me.

He was average, at best. The Raiders took a chance. Get over it.


139 posted on 05/26/2005 10:39:49 PM PDT by 1L
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To: Know your rights
But only 30-40% as many, by your numbers.

Not at all.

My point is that if a person's legal income is effectively zero, it doesn't matter if this week's fix costs $500 or $200 - he's still going to rob people to get it.

Therefore, there will be just as much crime.

If you'd read my post you'd see that I pointed out that someone who mugs you to get $20 of legal coke is just as violent and dangerous as someone who mugs you to get $50 of illegal coke.

140 posted on 05/27/2005 4:08:36 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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