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Constantine the Movie: Science Fiction or Anti-Catholic and Anarchist Propaganda?
New Republican Archive ^ | April 2005 | James Burke

Posted on 05/26/2005 8:56:29 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis

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To: CaptIsaacDavis
WHOOO- EEE this guy was high when he wrote this..
21 posted on 05/26/2005 9:52:26 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

Constantine is an OCCULT film.


22 posted on 05/26/2005 10:08:52 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

That was the all-time stupidest review I have ever read, heard, or dreamed about. WTF


23 posted on 05/26/2005 10:44:24 PM PDT by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

But he lost on American Idol


24 posted on 05/26/2005 10:44:57 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The New 7 RINO Dwarfs: Cowardly, Cranky, Dopey, Goofy, Mealy, Sorry and Wussy)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

Tin foil hat time.


25 posted on 05/27/2005 2:01:19 AM PDT by MonroeDNA ("Eat my body, drink my blood"--Catholics)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

I enjoy it when relegious nutjobs go off the deepend.

Trainwreck, and their heads just spin around.


26 posted on 05/27/2005 2:05:27 AM PDT by MonroeDNA ("Eat my body, drink my blood"--Catholics)
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To: tiggs

Sorry but I have "Family Guy" DVDs I am way behind on watching. I'll have to catch this one on "The Million Dollar Movie" some night at 2AM.


27 posted on 05/27/2005 5:12:01 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: MonroeDNA

This is the second thread in the last 20 minutes I've been on where you take shots at Christians and Christianity.

I'd appreciate it very much if you'd knock it off.


28 posted on 05/27/2005 5:19:23 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Strategerist

Could you please! get a clue before spewing...
Check out...
http://www.bookfinder.us/review6/0664223435.html

The Wachowski Brothers made it clear in interviews (Detroit Free Press, etc.) that the inspiration for their films was Cornel West's Marxist revolutionary take on Christianity, which was itself an "innovation"/critique of Western institutional doctrines.


29 posted on 06/03/2005 6:41:08 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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To: Strategerist

Could you please! get a clue before spewing...
Check out...
http://www.bookfinder.us/review6/0664223435.html

The Wachowski Brothers made it clear in interviews (Detroit Free Press, etc.) that the inspiration for their films was Cornel West's Marxist revolutionary take on Christianity, which was itself an "innovation"/critique of Western institutional doctrines.


30 posted on 06/03/2005 6:43:42 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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To: thombo

The Matrix films were about as blatant as one can make it -- a "hero" slaughtering FBI/Secret Service "Agents" by the dozens. The negative responses to this particular item seem to hang up mainly on the quick references to the Matrix films offered by the author at the beginning. Problem is, it appears that few of the critics here seem to have actually paid attention while viewing the Matrix films, or bothered to ever read any of the numerous commentaries on the film that can be found online (where the authors actually read what the Wachowski Brothers, Cornel West, and a French radical named Baudrillard said about the movie's themes). The Matrix films don't clearly reveal the "plot" until the third film. The men behind the films, along with West and Baudrillard, have since made no bones about the fact that the films attempted to give a "revolutionary virtual cinema" adaptation of two books: one by a left-wing nihilist author (Baudrillard, who discusses nihilistic cultural terrorism in the article Neo is seen turning to in Matrix 1.0 to get at his store of digital representations of mescaline, and was the guy who popped up on some media outlets here briefly when he wrote publicly that we asked for 9/11!) and a top member of the Democratic Socialists of America named Cornel West (who has roles on the Politburo shown in Matrix 2.0 and 3.0). West revealed publicly in 2003 that the Brothers indicated to him that West's book Prophesy Deliverance (Marxist neo-Christian revolution) was a key inspiration for the film. Check out Baudrillard's comments about 9/11, and then consider that he once revealed that he rejected a request to play a role in Matrix 2.0-3.0 -- you can't get more "obvious" about what the films were pushing. They were the most blatant Marxist propaganda EVER seen widely here, complete with theme music from a band infamous for advocating terror emulating the Marxist "Weathermen."

Some starter backgrounders from other sites...

http://www.qkw.com/jon/thematrix.htm
http://www.chrisknipp.com/writing/viewtopic.php?t=120


31 posted on 06/04/2005 9:32:00 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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Thankyou,i will ck out the sites.I haven't seen 2 or 3 yet,but i'll take your word on what you say.You seem to know what your talking about.Basically what your saying is that the people involved in the Matrix(from the books to the movies)are Marxists,and the movies have marxist undertones(if u know the background).I must admit i viewed the movie as pure entertainment,and(imo)a very creative story line.


32 posted on 06/04/2005 10:09:19 PM PDT by thombo
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
"They were the most blatant Marxist propaganda EVER seen widely here, complete with theme music from a band infamous for advocating terror emulating the Marxist "Weathermen."

I agree. I'm no expert on Christianity or Western culture and even I could see the syrupy Marxism-Leninism and anti-Western ovatures while watching it. It was pretty thick throughout the movies. Unfortunately, too many people grow up ignorant of the culture they live in and see little cause in defending assaults against it. 40 years ago the schools were steeped in socialism; now socialism reigns in many parts of the country, particularly in popular culture. Today the schools are indoctrinating marxism and anti-Christian hatred among other things so it's an easy bet what the future will bring.

The anti-Western, anti-Christian tribalists know what they are doing and have used the media, the courts, publishing and academia to their advantage for quite a long time. It's too bad many people don't recognize depravity for what it is.

33 posted on 06/04/2005 10:54:44 PM PDT by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: thombo

Also...the film's creator...Larry Wachowski is quoted here...

http://www.matrixfans.net/symbolism/meanings.php

Larry: Yeah, and he's probably more of a marxist than I am [Ken laughs], in terms of these ideas affecting and informing history...


34 posted on 06/11/2005 12:11:49 AM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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Thanx for the info.Ck'd out the sites you reccomended.I'm gonna have to see Matrix 2+3.Matrix 1 kept me glued to the screen.Isn't it ironic that writers(not just the Matrix)trash the system/society that allows them the creative freedom to do so in the first place?BTW,these guys are also(i assume)multi-millionaires now.Ahhh the joys of capitalism:)


35 posted on 06/11/2005 8:12:54 AM PDT by thombo
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Constantine the Movie: Science Fiction or Anti-Catholic and Anarchist Propaganda?

You omitted the third (and correct) choice, which is Over-CGIed Keanu Reeves Mumbling Shooting Flying Fake-Stunts Summer Flop.
36 posted on 06/11/2005 8:14:57 AM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

The author is overly fond of quotation marks. My eyes hurt.


37 posted on 06/11/2005 8:15:42 AM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
Okay, this is where I stopped reading:

The careful viewer would see in the scene of a demonic baby seeking to burst out of the new Mary’s belly a critique of the scene in the 1970s horror film the Exorcist, where two priests speak the traditional right of exorcism to remove a demon in possession of a body.

I mean, really. This is not UCLA film school, and no scene in "Constantine" is meant as a "critique" of ANYTHING. (Besides, "critique" is the wrong word; a better would be "reference.")

Why must people constantly impute motive where there is none?
38 posted on 06/11/2005 8:17:48 AM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

No, "Constantine" is a BORING movie.

(Films are shown in art houses. Anything starring Keanu Reeves, by definition, is a movie.)


39 posted on 06/11/2005 8:18:42 AM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: RightOnline; MonroeDNA

I gotta side with Monroe on this one. The author is clearly off his nut.


40 posted on 06/11/2005 8:19:12 AM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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