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Russian Boxer Valuev Number One WBA Heavyweight
Moscow News ^ | 27.05.2005

Posted on 05/27/2005 1:52:24 PM PDT by lizol

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To: kabar

I'd love to see what a good counter puncher who can move around would do to this guy. I'd be shocked if he can carry that bulk around effectively for more than a few rounds.

The Jimmy Young/George Foreman fight from..1977? ..comes to mind.


61 posted on 05/28/2005 9:54:57 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: Skip Ripley
Etienne has been his only real test. He needs to fight some quality fighters before judgement can be passed.

Nicolay Valuevv- Boxing Record

62 posted on 05/28/2005 10:02:02 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
which is why I agreed that Louis would beat this guy. Sorry, missed that.

There was a documentary made about mark kerr, a UFC fighter and his downfall. In the movie, they show Mark Coleman, who, while a big guy, fought a guy who looked like a T-Rex. tall and looked a lot like this guy but in better shape. Coleman ended up winning decisively.

This guy is pretty intimidating looking. he should pummel ruiz, I actually hope he does. Can't stand Ruiz and his whining.

63 posted on 05/28/2005 11:14:02 AM PDT by Benrand
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To: Benrand
Agree with you about Ruiz. His brawling, clinching, one shot and hold style is terrible to watch. He is a durable fighter who takes a good shot. A knockout would enhance Valuev's rep. Ruiz should also test his stamina and ability to fight inside.
64 posted on 05/28/2005 11:35:40 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
I hope this guy doesn't turn into Oleg Maskaev. Is this fight PPV or is it HBO?
65 posted on 05/28/2005 11:41:36 AM PDT by Benrand
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To: Benrand

As far as I know, the fight hasn't been scheduled yet.


66 posted on 05/28/2005 11:58:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: nikos1121

Not that I wouldn't be interested, but do you have any particular reason for the suggestion?


67 posted on 05/28/2005 12:57:43 PM PDT by watchin (People become leftists as a sort of gesture of infantile rage against their parents)
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To: RusIvan
You are fag yourself.

You're a fag.

Fag.

68 posted on 05/28/2005 1:06:36 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: Benrand
This guy is pretty intimidating looking. he should pummel ruiz, I actually hope he does. Can't stand Ruiz and his whining.

Ruiz is a fag.

69 posted on 05/28/2005 1:09:19 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: kabar
Wladimir Klitschko had similar advantages over the smaller Lamont Brewster and got knocked out in the 5th round. Wladimir is 6'6" compared to Brewster's 6'1".

Wladimir Klitschko punched himself into exhaustion in that fight.

You have to give Brewster respect for his great chin though! He was on the verge of being stopped and weathered the storm. Then Wladimer couldn't pick his arms up any longer.

70 posted on 05/28/2005 1:20:19 PM PDT by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: Ghengis

Wladimir Klitschko has had conditioning problems. He also doesn't have a fighter's heart and he has a questionable beard. I saw his other losses to Corrie Sanders and Ross Purity. He gave up in the 11th round to Purity. He hates to get pressured. His brother Vitali also quit against Chris Byrd.


71 posted on 05/28/2005 2:06:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Lazamataz

Knock it off.


72 posted on 05/28/2005 2:58:15 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: nikos1121

It is a great story, as it takes you back to that time... and not only the politics but of the man..... and what he accomplished. It is PG rated...I love watching it...

nick


73 posted on 05/28/2005 3:56:34 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Lazamataz

Who? Me?
Are you trying to convince me that some people have no sense of humor whatsoever?


74 posted on 05/28/2005 5:35:53 PM PDT by j23
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To: lizol

7' tall and 333 lbs? sheesh


75 posted on 05/28/2005 5:43:11 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: j23
Yes, that's me.

I have no sense of humor.

76 posted on 05/29/2005 5:08:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: Benrand
What happened to Kerr? I used to follow the UFC religiously up and until 3 or so years ago.

As for Coleman (who you accurately described as big) fighting a giant, and winning, I think that may not necessarily translate into boxing. In no-holds barred fighting there are more weapons available for use, unlike boxing where it is basically skills in pugilism. For instance i have had a far easier time with people larger than I am than with people smaller than i am, since in street fights (before i came to the US) anything goes. However a pure boxing fight does include certain size advantages.

Anyways, going back to the UFC, I'd love to see one of the Gracies (particularly Royce) go back there. I am 100% sure he would be destroyed by the current flock of fighters. The only reason Royce was a sensation back in the first few UFCs is because he was: 1) Skilled (got to give a man his dues ....Royce was good) and most importantly 2) No one had any real exposure/defense/offense when it came to working against the grappling arts (particularly Brazilian Jujitsu). And in a ring setting a striker without sufficient education in ground-work will get destroyed. However by the time i stopped watching the UFC the strikers (who had by now spent a lot of time learning ground moves and defenses) were regularly defeating the pure grapplers. Although i think by now everyone is no longer a pure anything .....even Maurice Smith (a muay thai kickboxer) is quite adept at Brazilian jujitsu.

Anyays .....let me get back to work. Have a blessed day. Spetz.

77 posted on 06/02/2005 12:17:02 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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