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To: wdkeller
If DeWeenie is lying, why don't Bush and Frist jump up and say so?

Maybe because he's not?

Me thinks that Rush is so wedded to his own analysis that this is a colossal defeat, that he's unable to accept the possibility that, lacking a 50th vote for the nuclear option, Frist and Bush moved to get the best deal possible through negotiation. Why is that so difficult to accept?

3 posted on 05/27/2005 4:05:45 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Maybe because he's not?

The guy is lying. If Frist wanted the best deal he would have went himself and lent credibility to the deal. As it is Frist denies the deal and says the constitutional option is on the table and that he didn't sign off on the agreement so therefore it is no good. He said that the first day. Why would he say that if he was in on making it? He wouldn't.

As for Bush, he is very busy and probably doesn't feel the need to deny something so obviously a falsehood. He probably thinks that we, the rank and file, have more brains than to believe he is envolved, unfortunately he overestimates the intelligence of a lot of the conservatives.

5 posted on 05/27/2005 4:12:50 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Maybe because he's not?

How many times must people misunderestimate W. The Dems have been snookered. Comity became comedy in less then 48 hours. Call it a Bolten of Lightening if you will but the DEMS are in trouble and don't seem to understand they are sitting in the back seat and W is driving.

9 posted on 05/27/2005 4:14:51 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: Kenny Bunkport

Rush is right on this one! DeWine bought into the lies and is now trying to escape. First thing I thought. This whole idea "he was sent" is just ridiculous.


12 posted on 05/27/2005 4:16:32 PM PDT by RightMike
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To: Kenny Bunkport
"Me thinks that Rush is so wedded to his own analysis that this is a colossal defeat, that he's unable to accept the possibility that, lacking a 50th vote for the nuclear option, Frist and Bush moved to get the best deal possible through negotiation. Why is that so difficult to accept?"

If you are right then, FRiend, it still doesn't exonerate Dewine and the rest of the traitors. Because there is no way in the world that this would have been possible without their collusion. And that about brings your argument to a screeching halt.

13 posted on 05/27/2005 4:18:46 PM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: Kenny Bunkport

That's EXACTLY what the Mooslum world is saying about the Newsweak article, who needs EVIDENCE right?


25 posted on 05/27/2005 4:32:50 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Maybe because he's not?

Let's use some common sense here. If DeWine and Graham only voted because they were instructed that way by the Whitehouse, that implies they would've voted with Frist. But if they had voted with Frist, then Frist had the votes. Now, if you believe that Graham/DeWine are covering for some other Republican senators who were going to vote against the fillibuster, why sacrifice Graham and DeWine? Why not pick one of the other senators who were going to vote against the rule change anyway?

The Whitehouse story doesn't pass the smell test and fails based on simle logic. I don't know that DeWine or Graham are the source of the bogus story. I suspect that someone likes to do a lot of talking and is passing along silly rumours.

40 posted on 05/27/2005 5:36:02 PM PDT by PMCarey
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Maybe because he's not?

Actually, if you think about it for a moment, you will see where your analysis fails. If Frist was part of the deal, there would be no need to bring bolton up before the "arranged judges". Frist seemed to be using Bolton as a "canary in a colemine" to test the donks before getting to the other judges. The canary died.

That's my take anyway. The fact that Frist brought up Bolton "before the judges" seems to be the biggest indicator that he knew nothing about any deal or script. Clearly, judges were supposed to come up before Bolton.

Occhams razor seems to say: DeWine is covering his rump.

The question becomes: What does Frist do next?

48 posted on 05/27/2005 7:18:03 PM PDT by Truth Table
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To: Kenny Bunkport

Because it is a colossal defeat.


50 posted on 05/27/2005 7:23:22 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (M.A.D. but with a share of the profits.)
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Because ANYONE who is in the least bit politically savvy, knows that Frist and the president WORK BEHIND THE SCENES ! That's just one reason WHY this "spin" ( I call it BOVINE EXCREMENT!), that the president sent Graham and De Wine to cover his arse, STINKS to high heaven and rings false.

The "compromise" is a power grab/ a coup de tat and a knife in the back of Frist and President Bush. It's akin to Julius Caesar giving the murderers the daggers they used to knife him to death on the Ides of March. Hmmm...And they were all SENATORS and "friends" too.

60 posted on 05/27/2005 7:59:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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