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To: Prost1

John O'Neill has apparently signed a Form 180:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/images/banners/O%27Neill_Form_180.jpg

I wonder how many lies will come to the surface about his service?

After all, we know he's lied about his service in Vietnam.

Don't think so? Here's a FOIA summary of his service posted by the Navy Times:

http://navytimes.com/content/editorial/pdf/kerry_oneill.pdf

So according to his own records - and simple arithmetic - he served about 15 months on a minesweeper, which spent about three months of that time in Vietnamese waters:

http://www.usswoodpeckermsc209.com/woodpecker_history.htm

Then he spent just under a year in Vietnam proper on Swift Boats - about 3.5 months in Cos. Div. 13 and 8 months in Cos. Div. 11. (also check out the history link at www.swiftboats.net).

That makes a grand total of about 15 months of service in or off the coast of Vietnam.

But a quick Google search shows that in 1971 he repeatedly claimed to have been "in Vietnam" nearly THREE YEARS:

During the Cavett debate: "... and after being in Vietnam for almost three years, I decided I wanted to go home back to Texas."

http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=Debate2


To the US Conference of Mayors: "I served in Vietnam for almost three years."

http://www.usmayors.org/uscm/us_mayor_newspaper/documents/04_12_04/kerry_oneill.asp

In a written statement prepared for a congressional committee: "This was the single most heroic act that I have witnessed during almost three years in Vietnam."

http://horse.he.net/~swiftpow/article.php?story=2004102209180749&mode=print


More uh, "misrepresentations":


To Kerry, in Cavett debate: "The first point is I served in Coastal Division 11 for 12 months, not four. ... I did serve in the same place you did, and not for four months but for 18 months... ."

http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=Debate2

"I served in Coastal Division 11 for a year. . . .I served for much of the prior two years in waters adjacent to Vietnam. "

http://horse.he.net/~swiftpow/article.php?story=2004102209180749&mode=print



And more recently:

"Ironically, John Kerry and I served much of our time, a full 12 months in my case and an abbreviated 4 month tour in his, commanding the exact same six-man boat, PCF-44, which I took over after he requested early departure."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005036

Actually, he took over PCF 54 (not PCF 44) more than eight months after Kerry left.




(Also posted at "Caveat Emperor" thread)


54 posted on 05/28/2005 5:15:20 PM PDT by write_on61
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To: write_on61

Correction to Post #54:

O'Neill took over PCF 94 five months after Kerry left, not eight months.


55 posted on 05/28/2005 5:17:58 PM PDT by write_on61
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To: write_on61
So let me get this straight. IF John O'Neill's biggest lie is that he over-inflated in statements about how long he was in Vietnam and the theatre then that compares to what? John Kerry?! Please. You are comparing the credibility and honor of Mr. Kerry, who has been caught in lie after lie about his time/missions in Nam, lied in front of congress with baseless charges and fake soldiers, met with the enemy and accepted and publicly endorsed the communist's 7-point plan and John O'Neill who served honarbly, did a full tour (over 12 months) and got his honorable discharge certificate months and not years later?

Wow talk about streching moral relatism to its extremist form.

57 posted on 06/02/2005 10:37:56 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Sober Idealism Equals Pragmatism")
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To: write_on61

Hey Mr write-on, what did O'neill do AFTER he "COMPLETED" his tour in Vietnam?
I'll tell you this much, he sure as hell didn't commit TREASON.


59 posted on 06/02/2005 11:11:45 PM PDT by conshack ((Illegal immigration is the #1 threat to Homeland Security))
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