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Getting the needle in the first time, every time
israel21c ^

Posted on 05/29/2005 7:21:53 AM PDT by ddtorque

Even the bravest and most stoic of us cringe at the thought of having a needle inserted into our veins to draw blood, or administer medication through an IV.

The experience is particularly unpleasant and sometimes traumatic for those who have veins that are hard to locate, requiring a stretch of time and several attempts until the blood is flowing into the appropriate vial.

Anyone who has been through this experience can appreciate the value of a new Israeli-invented device that makes the process far quicker and easier.

The Vein Entry Indicator VEID device alerts the doctor, nurse or technician inserting a needle into a vein that they have hit a vein by letting out a beeping sound. The device is a small plastic box attached to the proximal end of a standard I.V. catheter. It consists of a pressure sensor, signal indicator and processing unit. Once the tip of the needle enters the vein and a pressure increase is detected, the audio signal begins to be emitted within less than a tenth of a second. If the needle tip exits the vein, the beeping stops.

The story of how the device was invented is uniquely Israeli.

(Excerpt) Read more at israel21c.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Israel
KEYWORDS: health; israel; medicaldevice; medicine; technology

1 posted on 05/29/2005 7:21:54 AM PDT by ddtorque
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To: ddtorque
Trying to find a vein in peacetime under ideal conditions can be difficult enough...

This could be a real God sent to medics and corpsman in the field who are being shot at or shelled while trying to get fluids into the wounded who are often muddied as well as bloodied..
2 posted on 05/29/2005 7:29:59 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Taglines often reveal a lot about the inner person...)
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To: ddtorque
Once we have fully betrayed Israel and given her to the muzzlems...doubt many inventions such as this will be forthcoming...if history is any indicator that is...

imo
3 posted on 05/29/2005 7:31:58 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Taglines often reveal a lot about the inner person...)
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To: ddtorque
What a great idea for women in labor!! I had to have a pitocin drip while in labor with our #1 son. It was late in the evening at the end of a particularly hard day for the nurses on the Labor and Delivery floor. The woman in the room next to me was SCREAMING all day long! I asked the nurse if her labor was particularly hard, and she said "No, she just wants to scream." LOL!

But the poor nurse who was trying to start my IV tried THREE times and was unsuccessful. That was the ONLY time I've EVER cried while in labor, and I had three more kids over the next few years! Sir SuziQ turned white as a ghost and almost passed out watching me while they were trying to get the thing in! Finally that nurse gave up and turned it over to a nurse coming on the night shift. She tried once and got r done.

This device would be a blessing to ALL, those doing the bloodwork and those on whom it is being done!

4 posted on 05/29/2005 7:35:58 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: joesnuffy

"This could be a real God sent to medics and corpsman in the field who are being shot at or shelled while trying to get fluids into the wounded who are often muddied as well as bloodied.."

H, within the last year I had a "nurse" poke me so many times I thought she was a bad butcher. They had to call in somebody who knew what they were doing. This was at an HMO.


5 posted on 05/29/2005 7:41:39 AM PDT by jwh_Denver (BUSH --- BUILD THOSE WALLS!)
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To: joesnuffy

The Muslims will not get Israel regardless of our actions, according to The Book.


6 posted on 05/29/2005 7:57:03 AM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: ddtorque
The first time I underwent acupuncture, lying there with my eyes closed (it was part of my education; I'm an M.D. and a certified acupuncturist, hypnotherapist, massage therapist, et al.) I said, "This hurts a lot more than I thought it would." One of the people working on me said, "Open your eyes." They were marking me with ballpoint pens. When they put in the acupuncture needles, they didn't hurt at all.

In the army, I had a technician who was unusually beautiful and voluptuous. Some of the GIs would let her stick them 7 or 8 times without complaining.

7 posted on 05/29/2005 8:06:38 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Democrat Party: The Party of Sociopaths and Their (Mentally and Morally Retarded) Enablers!)
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>>In the army, I had a technician who was unusually beautiful and voluptuous. Some of the GIs would let her stick them 7 or 8 times without complaining.<<

And I'm sure they would have loved to do a little "sticking" as well.
8 posted on 05/29/2005 8:19:25 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: ddtorque

Needlesticks ping.


9 posted on 05/29/2005 8:24:07 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough (I don't remember.)
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To: ddtorque
"Today, when you insert the IV, there is a flashback chamber. When you see blood enter the flashback chamber, you know for sure that the needle has hit the vein. The problem is that when the patient is in a state of shock and has lost a lot of blood, it takes time for the blood to flow into the chamber. In this situation, it is very difficult to locate the vein. With the VEID, it is far easier."

While I was reading the article, it didn't sound like it's going to replace any techniques already being employed by nurses and medical techs. It seems to be more of a special need item for the tough sticks. Venipuncture is an art form that requires the experience of varied sticks, so this might not necessarily save student digging in those of us with good veins. :)
10 posted on 05/29/2005 8:31:02 AM PDT by Thoro (Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation alters his body chemistry....)
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To: Gunrunner2

You betcha!


11 posted on 05/29/2005 9:37:45 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Left IS The Dark Side.)
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To: Thoro

The fact that it will be audible (beep)and visual (blinking light) only while in the vein proper will help a great deal
in emergency situations where people are in shock etc.

Was just talking to an EMT friend the other night about his
experiences sticking an elderly patient in a rocking ambulance, he is VERY proficient at this but could not
make the IV because of the way the driver was tossing them
around.

Any thing that will help should get at least a trial.


12 posted on 05/29/2005 9:46:13 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Trillian

Good shot/Bad shot PING


13 posted on 05/29/2005 10:01:57 AM PDT by Conservative4Life (Blaming GUNS for crimes is like Blaming SPOONS for Rosies morbid obesity....)
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To: joesnuffy
This could be a real God sent to medics and corpsman in the field

When I was at Navy Hospital Camp Pendleton, we had a dependent wife come in; she had been beaten by her marine husband. She was already bruised, sore, and afraid.

She was tiny and had the smallest veins. It was bad enough that not a single female corpsman was on duty; it was worse in that 5 seperate unsuccessful attempts were made by corpsmen to hit a small vein.

We finally had to call the nurse on duty - a male; who missed on his first try and made it on his second.

My heart broke for the woman, and we all felt like worm poop.

14 posted on 05/29/2005 10:20:18 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (DOC - 81 MM Mortars, Wpns Co. 2/3 KMCAS 86-89)
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To: SuziQ

I had a kidney stone in April of this year and was gigged by a stupid tech at the hospital 21 times!!!! This went on for 45 minutes.

I finally started screaming "KILL ME KILL ME" at the top of my voice. Another nurse came in and FINALLY put the IV in.

The weird thing is the repeated gigging didn't hurt me as I was already in so much pain from the kidney stone, I couldn't feel it. But I couldn't get pain meds until the IV was inserted.


15 posted on 05/29/2005 11:55:19 AM PDT by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
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