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The Balkans fiasco continues
The American Thinker ^ | May 29th, 2005 | Douglas Hanson

Posted on 05/30/2005 12:32:56 AM PDT by Jane_N

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To: Destro
your "facts" are more like hacks, jack. Hoplite has exposed you for a fraud poster. You make SuperJoeCool and Ronly Bonly decent. At least we all knew they were idiots and they didn't hide or fight it.

Would you back up your claims with your own life if it came down to it? I know i will with my "facts". You seemed to dodge that same question last time, strike one.

41 posted on 06/02/2005 12:36:54 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: ma bell

Yea, Hoplite asks me where I get my facts and I post them and again in your bizarro world posting links to articles to support one's position is 'wrong'. Where are your links? Why don't you write an article since you have first hand info - or are you afraid of the mafia or whoever you blame for the Kosovo war?


42 posted on 06/02/2005 12:53:27 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

the media is bought and paid for and will not expose it. your links are fiction, hence Roy Gutman and Christiane Amanpour being your hero-writers. Go to them and ask them to verify their stories/subjects authenticity. Or, you can groundpound the local region and find out yourself. You don't have the guts to do that, armchair. You are what we call, Gara-trooper.


43 posted on 06/02/2005 1:20:18 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: ma bell
Destro is much smarter than you. I believe he said, at least once here on FR, that he got a perfect score on his SATs. He is better able to see when the media is trying to mislead, even without firsthand evidence.

You have been the foolish one to believe in the zombie Kostunica who was used to bring the DOS regime into power. Now because of the puppet regime in Serbia, there is worse poverty than under sanctions and they are selling anything of value at dirt cheap prices, all with much less rebuilding effort than the Milosevic regime did in the 1 ½ years right after the bombing.

You also imply and insinuate things, but when we ask for more information you clam up like it is top secret. So maybe you better not say anything at all if you can't elaborate. For example, when you said something about the soldiers being shot in and around barracks in Serbia over the last several months. You claimed once about having some kind of inside information that it was Montenegrins who did the murders, but would not repeat anything about this when I asked some questions. So basically you leave everybody hanging, with bits of information or disinformation and we never get to learn anything more.

44 posted on 06/02/2005 5:17:18 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan
really, is he so much smarter? hmmm, have him fax over a copy of his results. That'll resolve that debate very quickly.

I won't go into details, just the foundation for all of you to ponder and debate. This debate throws questions into the validity of all information put forward.

I'll never put out false information, only facts that are not "internet links".

Things are not what they seem to be, joan, remember that.

Question, which any of you has set foot on the ground and pounded the terrain and seen things, hmmmm?

yeah, destro is smarter then me, otay.

just remember, mark is very knowledgeable and so is paratrooper501. Listen to what they have to say.

45 posted on 06/03/2005 12:00:31 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: joan

oh yes, my fax number is found on my website. If he does have such a perfect score, he'd have covet that accomplishment and have that score readily available to fax it on over to me. :) Yes, I do know his real name as well. I know a doctored document also, so I am awaiting his fax.


46 posted on 06/03/2005 2:49:45 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: ma bell; Destro
Don't go around like a blathering idiot...your boring ass conspiracy theories..you are always insinuating those scenarios

How dare you insult such a fine FReeper like Destro. You couldn't shine his shoes. It is no "theory" or "scenario" that the KLA/Albanian criminals are the single largest purveyor of heroin, and biggest pimps of teenage sexual slavery in all of Europe. These Muslim vermin are despicable, and were not worthy of a single bomb on our behalf.

47 posted on 06/03/2005 3:30:31 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Smartaleck

There were troops home by Christmas, I know, I relieved them In September of 2000.


48 posted on 06/03/2005 3:46:11 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Smartaleck

Sorry that last post was supposed to have a [sarcasm] tag.


49 posted on 06/03/2005 3:46:38 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Destro

Why is it that every one of these break away states had "a bloody war with Serbia" and no one else? Could it be that the Serbians did want to control the former YR as has been contended? Could it be that the Serbians used ethnic cleansing tactics as has been proven in Bosnia? I know the Croatians got their hands quite bloody as well, so I am not going to defend them either, but to defend the Serbians to me seems ludicrous.


50 posted on 06/03/2005 3:52:04 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468
Not Macedonia - they broke away peacefully...but they did have a war with the Albanians in 2001 - many of those Albanians former KLA who launched their attack from NATO-controlled Kosovo.

The Croats ALWAYS wanted an ethnically pure Croatia and always murdered Serbs in the wars - WWI, WWII, and the last one. They (and their diaspora from Australia, Canada, U.S. etc.) also perpetrated terrorist acts against Serbs, "Yugoslavs", and others for the cause of an independent Croatia in the decades between WWII and the recent war.

The Croats killed at least one American (non-Serb) in the 1970's - a TWA pilot and/or a cop.

In Bosnia you had over 30% Serb population plus many "Yugoslavs" who were ethnic Serbs who didn't want to live under Muslim-Croat domination. The Bosnian Muslims were sending men for training and involvement in Croatia's war in 1991. "Bosniaks" feature in some of the accounts of atrocities done to Serbs. A Croat named Miro Bajramovic, who in 1997, confessed freely to Croat journalists, and told of the massacres and killings his unit, under commander Tomislav Mercep, did in Gospic and other areas of Croatia in 1991. The actual killer of the 12-year-old Serb girl - Aleksandra Zec - he named as a Muslim. The same Muslim was involved in harassing the tortured Serb prisoners before they were killed and other murders.

51 posted on 06/03/2005 4:06:49 PM PDT by joan
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Hey joan how about this. I know first hand of Serbians targeting our troops in RS-BiH. I also know first hand of them stashing millions of rounds of ammunition; for a future attack maybe?

These Serbians you so enthusiastically support hate US probably as much as any Al Queda does.

And, yes, joan like ma bell I know of this from being there in the military. Therefore, there is quite a bit of information I am not allowed to disclose. It is not to try to misinform, but for the security of our troops anywhere. You sound like a liberal when you accuse ma bell of misinformation because he is keeping secure information the way it is meant to be, secure.


52 posted on 06/03/2005 4:12:34 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Hoplite

Smuggling a weapon? The Balkans have served as a training ground for terrorists, a nice point to make on their resumes (and they do have resumes). That is weapon enough for me.

The Serbs were the last bastion holding back the Muslims from re-invading Europe. Sit back and watch the result.

I'm disgusted that Clinton helped the destruction of our own culture. And curious as to why.


53 posted on 06/03/2005 4:52:33 PM PDT by Shazolene
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To: phoenix0468
thank you.

however, i do beg to differ that the Serbs i know of..love the usa.

54 posted on 06/03/2005 7:01:27 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: phoenix0468; jb6
Hey joan how about this. I know first hand of Serbians targeting our troops in RS-BiH.

That's interesting, because jb6, who if I'm not mistaken, served in SFOR before you and claims that the Muslims targeted them.

Further, he was there when they [locals, foreign Muslims or both - not sure] placed bombs on a bridge the Pope was going to cross on a visit to Sarajevo in December 1997. But they, SFOR, discovered the bombs, and I think the Pope cancelled the visit, due to threats, anyway.

He also told of finding a factory where the Muslims were putting bombs/explosives in toys. [Again, I'm not sure if they were Bosnian Muslims, foreign Muslims or both. Still the Muslim government allowed it to operate.]

These Serbians you so enthusiastically support hate US probably as much as any Al Queda does.

Please name a terrorist attack committed by Serbs on America, name one American civilian killed by Serbs, or name one terrorist who trained in Serbia and then committed a terrorist act in America or in an EU country.

I also know first hand of them stashing millions of rounds of ammunition; for a future attack maybe?

This is probably to protect themselves against the Muslims who want all of Bosnia to themselves - the Bosniaks feel entitled to it. I've read what Bosniaks say and many of them are that way. We all know that NATO/EU forces will just stand back (or even covertly or overtly help) and allow a built up Muslim or Croatian force to attack Serbs. That's what happened during the "pogroms" in Kosovo in March 2004. All the NATO/UN soldiers do is stand together videotaping and photographic the destruction - probably think it is cool, watching other people - those who are politically incorrect and so it's okay to hate and destroy - and the things they appreciate be ruined.

55 posted on 06/05/2005 1:06:14 PM PDT by joan
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