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Zimbabwe -- Residents plead for weapons to fight Mugabe
Zim Online ^ | 2005-05-30

Posted on 05/30/2005 7:44:45 AM PDT by Clive

MUTARE - Residents in Zimbabwe's eastern Mutare city -- driven to desperation after their informal businesses were destroyed by the government -- pleaded for weapons at the weekend to wage war against the government because they were just "fed up."

Several hundreds of residents, who attended a meeting held at Sakubva Beit Hall in the working class suburb of Sakubva in the city, told local Member of Parliament, Innocent Gonese, to source guns for them to fight the government.

Even the presence of the police at the meeting did not deter the irate residents with several standing up to openly declare they would rather die trying to "remove President Robert Mugabe from power" because they had nothing to live for after their only source of livelihood was destroyed in the ongoing controversial campaign by the government to clean up cities.

"We want you to provide us with guns because we are fed up," a middle aged man rose from the crowd to declare boldly.

With the angry crowd urging him on, the man continued: "This government has no respect for the people. Our houses have been destroyed, our businesses have also gone. We have nothing to live for. We are prepared to die removing Mugabe. We don't want to hear all this talk of going to court (to sue for compensation from the state)."

Gonese, a lawyer and a senior member of the main opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) party, had trouble trying to calm down the residents who wanted him to say whether his party was prepared to lead an armed resistance against the government.

"Going to the bush (to wage a guerrilla war against Mugabe) is not the solution," the legislator tried to explain. "Of course we have a wicked government but we should seek legal recourse. That is the best solution," he said.

More than 18,000 people have been arrested and goods worth several hundreds of millions of dollars destroyed in a crackdown against informal traders and homeless people that began in Harare two weeks ago and has now been widened to include other cities and towns.

The government says the campaign is meant to rid cities of filthy and crime particularly the illegal black market which it says was thriving among informal traders.

But MDC leader Morgan Tsvangirai accuses Mugabe of unleashing the police against residents in urban centres, all of them strongholds of the opposition, to punish voters there for backing the MDC in last March's disputed general election.

The opposition leader has also accused Mugabe of wanting to provoke spontaneous and violent reactions by residents so he could find a pretext to declare a State of Emergency and rule by decree.

With tension rising across the country especially in Harare where some residents fought running battles with the police, Mugabe last Friday openly declared he was behind the crackdown against informal traders and homeless people.

As Mugabe spoke, armoured cars and heavily armed soldiers rolled into several suburbs in Harare last Friday to help suppress swelling anger against the clean-up operation.

The vast majority of Zimbabweans survive on informal trading while most of those still holding on to formal jobs must also engage in informal trading to boost up inflation-eroded incomes. Zimbabwe's inflation is pegged at 129.1 percent while unemployment is about 70 percent.

In nearly every city, authorities say at least a quarter of residents stay in illegal wooden shacks, which the government says must all be destroyed.

For example in Mutare city, Zimbabwe's fourth largest city, the city council says there are less than 30 000 legal housing structures and the rest of the city's estimated 1.5 million people live in wooden shacks.

At the weekend, several thousands of families in the city had to sleep in the open after their dwellings were destroyed by the police.

Meanwhile, the MDC national council yesterday released a statement calling on Zimbabweans to mobilise against the government.

"We call on all Zimbabweans to mobilise against this assault on their dignity, livelihoods and well-being. The National Council is calling upon all Zimbabweans to contribute to the struggle," read part of a statement by party spokesman Paul Themba Nyathi.

The opposition party, blamed by critics of being as lost as the government about how to rescue the country from a deepening economic and political crisis, did not say how exactly ordinary Zimbabweans must contribute to the "struggle."

The MDC statement did not also indicate whether the party had any specific programme to help aggrieved citizens assert their rights in the face of the government's clean-up operation. - ZimOnline


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THE police look on after destroying an illegal structure in Harare. The campaign has sparked riots throughout the country.

1 posted on 05/30/2005 7:44:45 AM PDT by Clive
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To: blam; Cincinatus' Wife; sarcasm; happygrl; Byron_the_Aussie; robnoel; GeronL; ZOOKER; Bonaparte; ...
"Zimbabwe's inflation is pegged at 129.1 percent while unemployment is about 70 percent."

In 2000 the Zim dollar was trading against the US dollar at 55 to 1. Now it is officially 9,000 to 1 and trading on the street at about 18,000 to 1.

Others estimate that about 80 percent of the workforce is unemployed.

The MDC will always plead for a legal and political recourse and there has to be an opposition party taking such a stance, but Zim will have to hit rock bottom and then a revolt will have to take place.

2 posted on 05/30/2005 7:50:48 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

Why is Mugabe doing this? Seems to me that he is creating millions of people who have absolutely nothing to lose- those are the most dangerous element of any society.


3 posted on 05/30/2005 7:51:15 AM PDT by Altair333
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To: Clive

MDC reminds me of the republican party. Being way too civilised in the face of absolutel corruption.


4 posted on 05/30/2005 7:52:49 AM PDT by cyborg (I am ageless through the power of the Lord God.)
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To: Altair333
Mugabe is riding the tiger.

He can't get off.

5 posted on 05/30/2005 7:53:14 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive
"This government has no respect for the people. Our houses have been destroyed, our businesses have also gone. We have nothing to live for. We are prepared to die removing Mugabe. We don't want to hear all this talk of going to court (to sue for compensation from the state)."

When guns are outlawed...

6 posted on 05/30/2005 7:58:20 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Altair333

---Why is Mugabe doing this?---

Perhaps he is attempting to open the market up for the Chinese? It sounds ridiculous but look what he did to farming.


7 posted on 05/30/2005 7:59:29 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Clive
Another dictator Chiraq and the UN supported. Disgusting! Zimbabwe WAS a success story just a few years ago.

BTW, spelling of Chiraq is intentional.
8 posted on 05/30/2005 8:00:50 AM PDT by Chgogal (Pinging 72 virgins. Pinging 72 virgins.)
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To: Clive

Cathy Buckles website is down.

I have not checked it for over a week.

Do you think she has finally left Zimbabwe?

I hope she and her son are out of there.


10 posted on 05/30/2005 8:13:20 AM PDT by Bennett46 (Please pray for TexasCowboy)
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To: Clive

Cathy Buckles website is down.

I have not checked it for over a week.

Do you think she has finally left Zimbabwe?

I hope she and her son are out of there.


11 posted on 05/30/2005 8:15:36 AM PDT by Bennett46 (Please pray for TexasCowboy)
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To: Bennett46

So is censorbugbear.com..something is amiss.


12 posted on 05/30/2005 8:41:00 AM PDT by wolficatZ ( + ><))))*> + "..gone shark surfing..." ____\0/_____/|____)
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To: Bennett46
The site often goes down, sometimes for days,

I posted Cathy's latest letter on Saturday under this title:
Zimbabwe -- Cathy Buckle -- Out of sight is not out of mind

My bookmarked link to her letters:
http://www.africantears.netfirms.com/thisweek.shtm
is not responding but if you cut the tail off and use this:
http://www.africantears.netfirms.com/
It should respond. Then you can click on the link "This Week" under "Cathy's Letters" and the letters should come up.

13 posted on 05/30/2005 8:41:39 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Bennett46

My mistake, I was looking to see if there was any info on Kathy Buckle.. http://groups.msn.com/censorbugbear


14 posted on 05/30/2005 8:42:43 AM PDT by wolficatZ ( + ><))))*> + "..gone shark surfing..." ____\0/_____/|____)
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To: Clive; wolficatZ

Thank you for the responses.

I wish she would get out of Zimbabwe.

I certainly understand Cathy's love for her country.

I love America, too. But if my child was in danger because of the country we lived in, I would get us out.

My sister-in-law is from South Africa. Her family left a large dairy farm...been in the family for generations...but they got out.

They brought very little with them to America, but they are all quite sucessful now.


15 posted on 05/30/2005 9:06:06 AM PDT by Bennett46 (Please pray for TexasCowboy)
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To: Clive

Somebody needs to get guns to these people.


16 posted on 05/30/2005 9:08:00 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Clive
Several hundreds of residents, who attended a meeting held at Sakubva Beit Hall in the working class suburb of Sakubva in the city, told local Member of Parliament, Innocent Gonese, to source guns for them to fight the government.

How many times does history record the outcome of the citizen allowing himself to be disarmed?

17 posted on 05/30/2005 9:16:02 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: LogicalMs
Korean shops were targeted and Korean Americans took to the rooftops with guns (legal, I hope, but don't know or care) to protect their families, homes and property. If the police can't or won't protect law-abiding businessmen, then they should be able to protect themselves.

I was there, and saw this with my own eyes. Amazingly, within 72 hours black churches had organized and the parishioners lined-up thier cars on Sunday at the Korean stations to buy gas in defiance of the looters.

If the Koreans hadn't armed themselves, the stations would have been gone.

18 posted on 05/30/2005 9:29:14 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVgirl

The Koreans use of weapons in legal in the natural law of self-defense,all other laws are subordinate.


19 posted on 05/30/2005 9:33:44 AM PDT by hoosierham
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To: Bennett46
I searched the New Zimbabwe forum for anything on her..the last post mentioning her is dated May 21, 2005:
 
"Ceaser, get hold of Cathy Buckle so that she gives you the minutes of the last CFU board meeting where they exhorted their members to continue making donations to MDC since they where the biggest funders. Cathy attended that meeting. "
 
http://newzim.proboards29.com/index.cgi?action=search2
 
I hope she's ok, her last letter was dated the 15th, and she was interviewed in a news story that ran on the 16th..
 
Harare Descends Into Chaos
Environment News Service - May 16, 2005
... in authority prepared to talk about the problem, the reason or the expected duration, is a complete waste of time," said Marondera resident Cathy Buckle. ...

20 posted on 05/30/2005 9:48:26 AM PDT by wolficatZ ( + ><))))*> + "..gone shark surfing..." ____\0/_____/|____)
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