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Missouri State Trooper Shot Nine Times During Traffic Stop
AP ^ | May 30, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/30/2005 2:04:49 PM PDT by Skylab

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To: ASOC
Same problem - shooting from inside the car would require swinging the bulky firearm around and bringing it towards the window - an awkward and time consuming proposition for everything with a non-collapsed shoulder stock. The policeman would have an ample time to react and draw his sidearm. And IIRC, assault rifles have projectile energy >1000 ft-lbs, while even a hot 9mm round from a moderate length barrel would not produce more than 600, and normally less.
That's why I'd think the perp was using a regular 9mm pistol, and assault rifle nomenclature comes from the reporter's gross ignorance.
61 posted on 05/30/2005 8:25:03 PM PDT by GSlob
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"Mr. Rollins can try to blame anyone he wants to blame, but the reality is, society wasn't out there pulling that trigger," Sanders said.

Darn straight.

62 posted on 05/30/2005 8:28:26 PM PDT by StarCMC (Free tagline courtesy of JesseJane!)
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To: Hat-Trick

got a link to that site, I want one too and so does my wife...


63 posted on 05/30/2005 8:30:04 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (Blaming GUNS for crimes is like Blaming SPOONS for Rosies morbid obesity....)
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To: GSlob
The perp did use a pistol, the comment was sent as a 9mm assault rifle was seen as not possible.

To a reporter - not well trained in much of anything dealing with weapons (or reality for that matter) a 9mm Colt would look just like an M-16 - a known assault rifle.

As noted in the other posts above, I agree an assault rifle would use an intermediate cartridge, be select fire, have a barrel of under 16 inches, large removable magazine and so on.
64 posted on 05/30/2005 8:32:50 PM PDT by ASOC (Land of the Free BECAUSE of the Brave)
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I notice Mr. Rollins is black and Trooper Brashear is white.

Does shooting a person nine times qualify as a hate crime?

Or are law officers excluded from consideration of that specific "crime"?


65 posted on 05/30/2005 8:34:10 PM PDT by boss man
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Per another article on this, link here, the trooper was wearing a vest. Referred article also described the weapon used as a 9mm handgun and not an "assault rifle".

Thanks. The article you ref'd was published by the KC Star as published by the AP.

The article into the thread was published by the AP (directly?). So somewhere along the AP line, the gun morphed from a pistol to an assault rifle.

66 posted on 05/30/2005 9:06:08 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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67 posted on 05/30/2005 9:37:01 PM PDT by Daaave (Was blind but now I see.)
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To: Daaave

Beretta CX Storm 9mm

68 posted on 05/30/2005 9:40:13 PM PDT by Daaave (Was blind but now I see.)
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To: Daaave

Marlin 9mm Camp Rifle

69 posted on 05/30/2005 9:44:51 PM PDT by Daaave (Was blind but now I see.)
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To: Skylab

Duke (laying face down on floor): Otto?

Otto: Yeah I'm here man.

Duke: The lights are growing dim. I know a life of crime led me to this sorry fate. And yet I I blame society. Society made me what I am.

Otto: That's bull----. You're a white suburban punk, just like me.


70 posted on 05/30/2005 9:49:52 PM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: Conservative4Life
Here is where I found it:
71 posted on 05/30/2005 9:54:46 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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"Mr. Rollins can try to blame anyone he wants to blame, but the reality is, society wasn't out there pulling that trigger," Sanders said.

Thanks be to God that Rollins had a crappy shot as well!

72 posted on 05/30/2005 10:02:54 PM PDT by SuziQ
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