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To: kabar

Dear kabar,

Sen. McGovern was not the odds-on favorite at the beginning of the 1972 election season to win the Democrat presidential nomination. I believe that Sen. Muskie was a favorite, if not the favorite. Tears (or snowflakes) in response to forged letters seemed to have had an effect on Mr. Muskie's candidacy.

"I don't buy the premise that Nixon's reelection committee helped handpick the Dem nominee or had any influence in doing so."

I didn't say they did. I DID say they tried to have influence in that process. I'm skeptical whether they succeeded.

"Nixon won in 1968 because of George Wallace's formation of a third party, which split the Sourthern Dems. Wallace won 46 electoral votes in 1968."

Some at FR have argued that Mr. Wallace nearly cost Mr. Nixon the election, that Mr. Wallace hurt Mr. Nixon more than Mr. Humphrey.

"If you think that Nixon and his reelection committee originated political dirty tricks, you are sadly mistaken."

Did you take the time to read my posts? Let me quote myself from my last post:

"I also don't think that Mr. Nixon's minions did anything different than previous presidents."

* * *

"Felt was also a felon."

True, but irrelevant. Mr. Felt was a scumbag. That doesn't precisely exonerate Mr. Nixon.

"Richard Nixon was not a convicted felon."

True, but neither is Mr. Clinton. Yet, it doesn't prevent us from recognizing the truth that he (and Mr. Nixon) committed felonies. In the case of Mr. Nixon, the Republican leadership told him he'd have to go. In the case of Mr. Clinton, the Dammocrap leadership defended him till their dying breath.


sitetest


99 posted on 06/01/2005 8:30:57 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
I didn't say they did. I DID say they tried to have influence in that process. I'm skeptical whether they succeeded.

Please cite the sources for that assertion, i.e., they tried to have influence in that process.

Some at FR have argued that Mr. Wallace nearly cost Mr. Nixon the election, that Mr. Wallace hurt Mr. Nixon more than Mr. Humphrey.

I am not one of those. Wallace was a Southern Democrat. In 1968, Wallace won AK, LA, Miss, Alabama, and Georgia. Nixon won SC with 38% of the vote( Wallace came in 2nd), North Carolina with 39% of the vote(Wallace 2nd),and Tenn with 38% of the vote (Wallace 2nd). These were all historically Dem states.

In other Nixon won states Wallace received 18% of the vote in Kentucky, 24% in Virginia, 29% in Florida, 11% in Missouri, 8% in Illinois.

I have a hard time accepting the assertion that an avowed rascist Southern Democrat would siphon more votes from the Rep candidate than the Dem. The figures say something else. Nixon defeated Humphrey in the popular vote by about 500,000 votes (43.4% to 42.7%). Wallace received almost 10 million votes (13.5% of the total vote).

"I also don't think that Mr. Nixon's minions did anything different than previous presidents."

So, ergo, all previous presidents were engaged in felonious activities.

<True, but neither is Mr. Clinton. Yet, it doesn't prevent us from recognizing the truth that he (and Mr. Nixon) committed felonies. In the case of Mr. Nixon, the Republican leadership told him he'd have to go. In the case of Mr. Clinton, the Dammocrap leadership defended him till their dying breath.

Sorry, but Clinton was found guilty in a court of law for lying under oath and obstructing justice. He had to pay a fine and his law license was suspended. Although he was pardoned by Ford, Nixon never went to trial so he is presumed innocent until proven guilty under our system of justice.

102 posted on 06/01/2005 9:08:02 AM PDT by kabar
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