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Deep Throat, Antihero
Slate ^ | May 31, 2005 | Timothy Noah

Posted on 06/01/2005 8:10:11 AM PDT by kellynla

For years the better class of Deep Throat sleuth—discriminating, Campari-sipping sophisticates like James Mann, Nora Ephron, Richard Nixon, Washingtonian magazine, Chase Culeman-Beckman, Ronald Kessler, and yours truly—have been fingering W. Mark Felt, former deputy associate director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, as the likely anonymous source described by Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein in All the President's Men.

What the theory lacked in originality it more than made up for in plausibility. One month before the Watergate break-in, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover had died.

Hoover loyalists at the bureau were frantic that President Richard Nixon would get his mitts on the FBI, which Hoover had kept independent of political control through a variety of nasty methods, including blackmail.

The Hooverites' bureaucratic anxieties were well-founded: After the Watergate break-in, Hoover's acting successor, a Nixon loyalist named L. Patrick Gray, routinely passed FBI files about Watergate directly to White House counsel John Dean, who was a party to (but eventually would expose) the White House's illegal coverup. In effect, the White House ended up knowing everything the FBI knew. (That's why it seemed so plausible that, if not Felt, Deep Throat might be Deputy White House Counsel Fred Fielding, a theory that, I regret to say, undermined in recent years my previous rock-solid conviction that it was Felt, or at least some other high-ranking G-man—case closed.) Felt pushed back by helping Woodward and Bernstein discover that high-level White House aides were in up to their necks in Watergate, up to and including Nixon.

(Excerpt) Read more at politics.slate.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: deepthroat; fbi; feltgate; markfelt; watergate
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To: rod1

You mean Hilary is going to milk this thing for three more years? Oh, please, no!

Some of us either barely remember Watergate, or don't remember it at all. Except that Mama cried when Nixon resigned ...

That said, I think if Mark Felt was Deep Throat, he must have been doing so for revenge, very selfish motives.


21 posted on 06/01/2005 9:34:50 AM PDT by Cloverfarm (Children are a blessing)
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To: rod1
The story broke because Hillary wants to ride her role on the Watergate committee to the WH.

We can only hope so.

She pushed to deny the right to counsel for Nixon and her immediate superior (sorry, his name escapes me now) stated in writing that she was one of very few lawyers working for him who he would not recommend for a job.

22 posted on 06/01/2005 9:38:43 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: kellynla

The irony of it all. The mystery and mystique of "Deep Throat".... Who could it possibly be?

Just another bureaucratic schnook with a grudge.

Jack.


23 posted on 06/01/2005 9:38:50 AM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: Cloverfarm

That said, I think if Mark Felt was Deep Throat, he must have been doing so for revenge, very selfish motives.

Anti hero is the correct phrase. So he didn't get that promotion he wanted, huh?


24 posted on 06/01/2005 9:44:35 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: kellynla

Deep Throat, liberal poster child ...


25 posted on 06/01/2005 9:46:11 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: ex-snook
This timing is beginning to smell to me.

There is nothing about the "timing" that undermines the tawdry tale.

26 posted on 06/01/2005 9:51:55 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Reaganesque

You may be bored by the exposure of the true nature of Deep Throat, but many of us are pleased it has finally come out that noble purpose was not behind the duplicity.


27 posted on 06/01/2005 9:53:14 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: kellynla
Deep Throat = Shallow Loyalty.
Semper Fi ...
28 posted on 06/01/2005 9:53:24 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: rod1
The story broke because Hillary wants to ride her role on the Watergate committee to the WH.

Nonsense.

Besides, her role was deemed unethical. I doubt she wants to go there.

29 posted on 06/01/2005 9:55:36 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: kellynla

Quite a conflict for a man torn between public duty and responsibility and the idea of personal morality. Did he do right?


30 posted on 06/01/2005 9:55:39 AM PDT by RightWhale (These problems would not exist if we had had a moon base all along)
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To: rod1

BTW, in case you haven't noticed, almost immediately the media (and even this idiotic grinning Felt family) realized the public wasn't going to view Felt as a hero.

This only serves up a heap of "never mind".


31 posted on 06/01/2005 9:57:47 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: CaptRon
Hillary Rodham's 1974 Watergate "Procedures were Ethically Flawed"

By Jerry Zeifman

32 posted on 06/01/2005 9:59:58 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
There ya go!

Thanks!

33 posted on 06/01/2005 10:01:06 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: RightWhale
"Did he do right?"
He did wrong.
He had no business leaking F.B.I. investigative information to the press. PERIOD!

And but for the expiration of the statute of limitations, he would and should have been indicted, prosecuted, convicted and imprisoned.

You can bet that if Felt had leaked information on a 'Rat administration to the Wash Times, the MSM would have DEMANDED Felt's head on a platter.
you can take that to the bank!
34 posted on 06/01/2005 10:04:18 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

He did wrong in his office. Did he do wrong as a man?


35 posted on 06/01/2005 10:05:13 AM PDT by RightWhale (These problems would not exist if we had had a moon base all along)
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To: RightWhale
"He did wrong in his office. Did he do wrong as a man?"
of course...
a man who betrays his oath of office and the letter of the law betrays himself as a man.

that's probably why he finally admitted to being Deepthroat...he wanted to clear his conscience before he meets his Maker.
36 posted on 06/01/2005 10:08:39 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

He betrayed his office and should suffer the penalty under law. Whether a subordinate office is the highest thing is another question.


37 posted on 06/01/2005 10:11:34 AM PDT by RightWhale (These problems would not exist if we had had a moon base all along)
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To: kellynla

Deep Throat: unindicted felon


38 posted on 06/01/2005 10:11:59 AM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: RightWhale

Felt is a Klinton-like scumbag.

Watergate tore apart a nation and demoralized it - and contributed greatly to the "malaise" of the '70s. It was greatly overblown, and we are now likely to discover that the pieces all fit: that it was a blatantly political ploy to hurt Republicans.

This is one MF who ought to be in jail. Something ought to be done to extract reparations from this MF and his family.
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However, I just love the "investigators" who have fingered so many people wrongly over the course of the years.

Look at some examples from Wikipedia (as of yesterday):

First cut:
Over the years, political observers have suggested many possible candidates as Deep Throat, including FBI director L. Patrick Gray, Nixon advisor Alexander Haig, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and even former U.N. ambassador (and later president) George Bush, Sr..

[I never suspected any of these, personally - but had no idea myself who else to suspect]

Second cut:
Leading candidates

Generally acknowledged to be the three leading candidates are W. Mark Felt, Fred Fielding, and William H. Rehnquist.
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Someone from Wikipedia gets partial credit!
also, check out this School of "Journalism" take:

"The 7 finalists are listed here: http://www.comm.uiuc.edu/spike/deepthroat/
Patrick Buchanan, speechwriter and special assistant to the president.
David Gergen, speechwriter, then served as press spokesman for President Reagan.
Jonathan Rose, Attorney for White House relations.
Raymond Price, head speechwriter.
Stephen Bull, a special administrative assistant to Nixon.
Fred Fielding, top assistant to John Dean.
Gerald L. Warren, deputy press secretary under Nixon."
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How about how well the Investigative Journalism classes at UofI can really get to the bottom of things...

From another of their web sites: http://deepthroatuncovered.com/
How students solved one of America's top mysteries

After a four-year investigation, students at the University of Illinois have determined the identity of Deep Throat, the most elusive, anonymous news source in history: Fred Fielding, deputy counsel to former President Richard Nixon

Updated 11/21/2003

Wrong yet again...
Amazing.
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More amazing is the supreme confidence these academics have in their results.

These are the type of people who are writing "history books" now - "investigating" such things as Jefferson's sex life, etc. ,as well as seeking out stories for Newsweak, CBS 60min, and the NYSlimes.

It is important for us to to recognize their enormous fallibility.

Many people have been slandered by these "investigative journalists" inspired by their @#$%^ "professors" over the years.

To me/ For ME - this is the real story of Watergate.

I loathe them all nowadays.

FRAUDcasters.
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39 posted on 06/01/2005 10:43:09 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: RightWhale

And let me add,

MF ought to have gone over to the US Attorney, who was already well into investigating, instead of doing his self-aggrandizing power play - for which until recently, he was properly ashamed - but insufficiently punished.

Someone ought to clue the Old Mediots and those who they have been indoctrinating these last thirty years, about the results of the greatly overblown Watergate affair:

-A presidency was brought down by indirect effects simply because the president was perhaps overly loyal to his people.
-The United States was weakened.
- Nixon's weakness led to the defeat of S.VietNam, and the death of the millions of SE.Asians.
-The worst and weakest president of the 20th century was installed - emboldening our enemies.
-The Shah of Iran was overthrown instead of the US being able to bolster up a voice of moderation and modernity in the MidEast - and much of the world's terrorism was strengthened as a result
- and OPEC stretched its muscles - and the US was not strong enough to effectively respond (I categorically don't mean militarity).
-Reagan was the inevitable reaction to the worst president, but by that time irreversible damage had been done.
-The Old Media FRAUDcasters have since been trying to bring down presidents, and even found themselves forced, finally, into joining the New Media to some extent against Bill Clinton.
-Journalism's "highest calling" has become trying to bring shame on politicians - with the gold prizes for R-politicians - instead of reporting news that really affects the country and the world.


We're still in the process of attempting to recover from Watergate.
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40 posted on 06/01/2005 10:48:33 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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