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Undocumented immigrants cause a stir in West University (Houston, TX)
KTRK-TV ABC news ^ | 6-1-05 | eyewitness news

Posted on 06/01/2005 9:59:51 AM PDT by txdoda

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To: Eaker

I understand perfectly well. And I have never apologized for a criminal. But this is exactly why I usually blow off most of these immigration threads, because anyone who doesn't fall in line with the most ridiculous and extreme interpretations is accused of being a lackey who wants open borders. And it is the same reason why it has taken far longer than it should have for the issue to take hold in the general public, because the loudest voices against illegal immigration are often liars and rabid cranks foaming at the mouth. Whether you like it or not, most people understand that the majority of these illegal aliens are coming here just to improve their life, not as some sinister Atzlan plot. So when you call me a criminal apologist just for pointing that out, you are calling them that, too. Not a good way to win people over to the merits of your arguments.


81 posted on 06/01/2005 5:17:48 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: monkeywrench

Yep, there are mexican militia hiding under your beds.


82 posted on 06/01/2005 5:20:16 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat; Eaker
Excuse me?

Because I called someone out for drama queening that every illegal alien is coming here "embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans"

Who is the drama queen dear?

I posted a Quote. I didn't MAKE IT UP... nor did I dramatize it with illusions.. I answered you straight and directly. You can't seem to understand the quote, nor the response, OR, others attempts to help you.

I understand that if one is to talk about another here at F/R, you are to give them a courtesy ping..

83 posted on 06/01/2005 5:25:52 PM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Whether you like it or not, most people understand that the majority of these illegal aliens are coming here just to improve their life

That is not what the mexican illegal alien support groups say. They say that this is their land.

What part of criminal is not clear??

So you agree that for what ever reason they come here they are committing a crime and criminals should be punished?

I don't care if someone is stealing out of my yard so they can feed their family or better their life. If the criteria for the use of lethal force is met then they are dead.

84 posted on 06/01/2005 5:26:24 PM PDT by Eaker (..Let them throw cake!! . (TheMom)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

You need to do some homework on the leftist movement to our south and their goals. We can see them playing out in calif. everyday.


85 posted on 06/01/2005 5:35:53 PM PDT by monkeywrench (http://ciudadano.presidencia.gob.mx/peticion/peticion.htm -Tell Vicente)
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To: brazzaville; JesseJane
"Why would Mexico, which has Pemex and unrestricted access to the US and Europe, need petrochemical products from the Mad Mullahs?"

Cover story for their own people. What else could they want to ship to mexico besides oil?

86 posted on 06/01/2005 5:39:46 PM PDT by monkeywrench (http://ciudadano.presidencia.gob.mx/peticion/peticion.htm -Tell Vicente)
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To: monkeywrench

That's ANOTHER good question.. Mexico has oil, so what's the 'deal' really for? Or, is it a pact to squeeze buyers? Bottomline, if the Mexican economy is booming, why are they still pushing their criminals here? To force their political agenda through OUR ballot box.


87 posted on 06/01/2005 5:47:25 PM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: txdoda
*poor* illegals PAID 4K to 6K each......LOL

Surely you know where that money came from?

88 posted on 06/01/2005 5:47:31 PM PDT by poindexter
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To: JesseJane

I'm working on a theory. Google Plan Puebla-Panama. China figures in this one, though.


89 posted on 06/01/2005 5:54:02 PM PDT by monkeywrench (http://ciudadano.presidencia.gob.mx/peticion/peticion.htm -Tell Vicente)
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To: monkeywrench

Whoa. This is going to require some study. This is ringing other bells with me as it relates to Border XXI..

..the homework never ends!!! ...

Thanks MW.. :)


90 posted on 06/01/2005 6:02:39 PM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: monkeywrench

Also note:
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=9650





~WEF / DAVOS mark~


91 posted on 06/01/2005 6:06:11 PM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: JesseJane

Bttt! Gotta get offline, now, but I'll try to get some more links together tommorrow.


92 posted on 06/01/2005 6:11:22 PM PDT by monkeywrench (http://ciudadano.presidencia.gob.mx/peticion/peticion.htm -Tell Vicente)
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To: JesseJane

Spare me the victimhood drama. We've argued back and forth several times on this thread(so far just 1 page), and as usual its turned into a circle of a handful of posters repeating their rants and reinforcing each other, so the likelihood of you missing my comments was rather nil. And I also was trying to be a bit vague out of courtesy, rather than trying to slam you by name.


93 posted on 06/01/2005 6:23:03 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

You are an opponent of grace and intellect. /s


94 posted on 06/01/2005 6:34:14 PM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: JesseJane
It's not going to pass, it's changing the country, domestic and foreign policy, education, healthcare, law enforcement, everything and everyone, but still they sit in the stew of denial.

You're right, it's NOT going to pass. The numbers are growing daily while the politicians smile and pay off their campaign debts to the slavemasters.

How can the government admiit that there are at least 14 million illegal aliens in this country without admitting that we're being colonized?

95 posted on 06/01/2005 6:46:49 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen

14 Million is a conservative estimate I believe.. 4 years ago, it was 20 million.. and yet, McCain Kennedy claim roughly only 3 million aliens would be granted amnesty.. Riiiiiiiight. Colonization is a nice word for occupation. If there are more than 3 million amnesty tickets granted, what is the plan to send the rest home? Or, would their plan include relocating them to every state to ensure each has their fair share of voting aliens?


96 posted on 06/01/2005 7:05:53 PM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: JesseJane
If there are more than 3 million amnesty tickets granted, what is the plan to send the rest home? Or, would their plan include relocating them to every state to ensure each has their fair share of voting aliens?

The politicians would prefer the latter... As for me, I want them ALL sent home. Let them apply legally. Let them wait their turn.

97 posted on 06/01/2005 7:14:20 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen

Agreed. Legal immigration is fine. However, unless we send the illegals home, we need a moritorium on any and all new immigrants, until we solve the 'overage' issue. And, until the 'amnesteed' aliens have been assimilated, speak English, and have passed through the same process as those who came here legally. Fair is fair.

If there is such a shorage of labor, perhaps our schools could educate our children with the skills for those jobs. Hey, there's a concept.


98 posted on 06/01/2005 7:22:03 PM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: JesseJane
Sadly, the schools in California are too busy trying (and hardly succeeding) to teach non-English speakers some of the basics. The American kids get lost in the shuffle in many towns that are mainly hispanic now.

That's why many parents of American kids are either putting their kids in private schools or using an address in a better school district, to get thier kids away from the schools who are forced to pander to the non-English speakers.

99 posted on 06/01/2005 7:34:21 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen

I understand many TEACHERS put their kids in private school as well. For an education and for their own safety.

Either way, the dumbing down of children will trap them to be used by politicians. And those that have been properly education will be trapped by the stupid as well.


100 posted on 06/01/2005 7:55:58 PM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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