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Group on U.S. terror list lobbies hard
United Press Int'l | May 31st, 05 | UPI

Posted on 06/01/2005 10:55:28 PM PDT by Khashayar

Washington, DC, May. 31 (UPI) -- U.S. lawmakers and former military officers are backing Mujahedin-e Khalq, an Iranian opposition group, despite its inclusion on the State Department's list of foreign terrorist organizations and its role in the killing and wounding of U.S. military personnel and civilians in the 1970s.

Supporters acknowledge the status of the group, once funded by deposed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, as well as its role in the killings of U.S. military personnel and civilians in the 1970s in Iran when it was allied with Ayatollah Khomeini, but say the MEK has shed its past activities and is a potential ally against the theocratic regime in Iran.

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., who sits on the House Intelligence Committee, responded in a written statement saying he supports the MEK because it is an "asset to U.S. intelligence" and "the most reliable source of information for the region."

In recent years the MEK's political branch, the National Council of Resistance of Iran, has provided information about Iran's nuclear facilities, which the Bush administration contends are being used to secretly make nuclear weapons.

Tancredo's press secretary, Carlos Espinosa, said it is not "too unusual" for members of Congress to support a group listed as a foreign terrorist organization, citing Sen. Ted Kennedy's support for the Irish Republican Army as an example.

"Are these guys saints? No." Espinosa said. But, "if there's a problem, it's that the MEK is on the list."

Other lawmakers who have expressed support for the MEK, including Robert Filner, D-Calif., did not return repeated calls for comment.

The Council's Washington office has now been shut down and the organization is banned in the United States because of its affiliation with the MEK.

MEK leader Maryam Rajavi has suggested her group as an alternative to Iran's revolutionary regime -- with Rajavi taking the place of the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. She has offered to head a transition government for six months, after which elections will be held, according to news accounts.

But, said Iran expert Mohamed Hadi Semati, the MEK has no support from Iranians inside the country. Semati, a political science professor at the University of Tehran and a scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington, said he had no doubt the MEK would be resisted if it tried to take over the government in Iran because the group had "killed a lot of innocent people."

"They would be killed instantly if they tried to go inside Iran," he said, recalling that in 1987 the Iranian army and security forces fended off the MEK after its members tried to invade the country during the war with Iraq. At the time, the group was financed by Saddam.

In contrast, the Iran Policy Committee, a Washington think tank of former U.S. officials that specializes in Iran policy and favors the removal of the group from the terror list, said the move would "send a signal to the Iranian rulers that their days are numbered." In a written statement to questions about the MEK, the IPC called the organization the "best organized, most credible Iranian opposition group" that stands for a democratic, secular republic in Iran.

Meanwhile, Rajavi is confined to MEK's base in France after she and 150 supporters were arrested there on suspicion of plans to attack Iranian embassies and assassinate former members working with Iranian intelligence services in Europe, according to news and think-tank reports. The MEK has been on the European Union's list of terrorist organizations since 2002.

Despite her confinement, Rajavi used a satellite link to address an April 15 convention in Washington, during which she called on all Iranians to unite toward achieving democratic change in Iran. At the same event, the Iranian-American National Convention, former military officials, Army Col. Kenneth Cantwell and Capt. Vivian Gembara praised the People's Mujahedin of Iran (another name for the MEK) and urged the Bush administration to remove it from the terrorist list, according to a news release from the event. It was not clear who sponsored the convention, however, and calls to the convention contact number were not returned.

In the past, Washington has had mixed results with the strategy of relying on opposition groups for intelligence or assistance in thwarting a regime.

Most recently, the U.S. reliance on intelligence from Iraqi exile and Iraqi National Congress leader Ahmad Chalabi proved to be unwise. Chalabi and the INC were sources of intelligence about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capability now widely believed to be false.

Tancredo acknowledges the risk, according to Espinosa, who said everything the MEK has told Washington about Iran -- that Iran moved nuclear equipment to another undisclosed military location -- has been "100 percent true."

"Call them what you want, but they not liars," Espinosa said.

However, the information provided by the MEK to Washington was passed on to the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, State Department deputy spokesman Adam Ereli said during a Nov. 17, 2004, news briefing. Ereli said the State Department was not in a position to evaluate the credibility of the report and had no contact with the MEK, which he called a terrorist organization.

The State Department classification of foreign terrorist organizations is based on past terrorist attacks, as well as the capacity or intent to carry out terrorist attacks in the future -- terrorism meaning as planned, politically motivated violence against civilian targets by non-state groups, according to a 2005 fact sheet by the department's counter-terrorism office.

The group landed on the list after decades of armed opposition to the Iranian regime. The MEK's strikes on Iranian targets did not target civilians but put them at risk because it routinely aimed its attacks at government buildings in crowded cities, according to a report by GlobalSecurity.org, a group that tracks global security issues. It is unclear how many civilians were killed as a result of MEK attacks.

The MEK is adamantly opposed to the Shiite Islamist regime in Iran and has sought to overthrow it since 1981, though they were originally allied in the movement to oust the autocratic, pro-Western Shah Reza Pahlavi (MEK members supported the 1979 takeover of the U.S. embassy in Tehran, in which 52 Americans were held hostage, according to a GlobalSecurity.org report).

However, the MEK staged an armed uprising against the revolutionary regime led by Khomeini after the group was marginalized from power. Following a brutal crackdown by Iranian security forces, the MEK was expelled from Iran and fled to France.

In 1987 Saddam offered the MEK refuge, funding and arms, which it then used to stage attacks on the Iranian regime -- also at odds with Saddam. In addition, the MEK assisted Saddam in suppressing the 1991 Iraqi and Kurdish uprisings in Iraq, according to the Council on Foreign Relations, a New York-based think tank.

Over the years the MEK has softened its Marxist-Islamist doctrine and recently renounced terrorism but has acquired notoriety because of its use of women fighters, whose devotion to Rajavi and her husband, Massoud, has taken on the aura of cult-worship, with vows of devotion and celibacy, according to a 2003 New Yorker Magazine profile. In 2003, 10 members and sympathizers set themselves on fire to protest the arrest of Rajavi in France.

A recently released report by Human Rights Watch details how the MEK's "ideological revolution" entailed the detention, severe beatings and torture of members who criticized the group's policies or requested to leave the organization. One man, Mohammed Hussein Sobhani, told Human Rights Watch investigators he was held in solitary confinement for 8-1/2 years.

Others were held in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq after being handed over by the MEK for detention outside of its own camps, the report said.

The official U.S. position is that the MEK is a foreign terrorist organization, not a group for regime change, said a State Department official. In 2002 Secretary of State Colin Powell reaffirmed the classification after the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the State Department had to give the MEK a hearing to rebut the charges.

The State Department has no plans to remove the group from its list but will be reviewing the case yearly, the official said. Once on the list, representatives and members of the organization that are not citizens are barred from entering the United States and can be expelled in some cases. Putting a group on the list is supposed to isolate it. Also, groups are blocked from receiving support or resources, and their assets are frozen.

Legislation is currently pending in the House that would make funds available to individuals and groups that oppose the regime in Iran. The MEK is not likely to see any of this money until its status changes.

Meanwhile, as Rajavi is being kept in France, the remaining 3,500 MEK followers are under the protection of U.S. and coalition forces in Camp Ashraf in Iraq, near the Iranian border.

When U.S. troops toppled Saddam's regime in Iraq, the group became the responsibility of the Pentagon. They are now considered refugees and protected persons under the 4th Geneva Convention, which protects non-combatants during an armed conflict.

MEK followers have surrendered their weapons and been handed over to the Iraqi government, said Lt. Col. Guy Rudisill, public affairs officer for the detainee operations in Iraq. More than 300 were returned voluntarily to Iran, he said during a telephone interview. The International Committee of the Red Cross, the Iraqi human-rights office and the U.N. refugee agency have been given the task of deciding the ultimate status of the remaining members and where they should go.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; islam; marxist; mek; terrorism; us
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I hate MEK more than I hate Mullahs!

I'd rather have Mullahs in Iran in power than MEK in power

That is a big mistake to support these group against the Iranians' will

1 posted on 06/01/2005 10:55:29 PM PDT by Khashayar
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To: DoctorZIn; nuconvert; freedom44; RaceBannon; FreeReign; warsaw44; katman; MLedeen; Valin; ...
INFO ON FOREIGN TERRORIST GROUP PING!

Down with MEK and Mullahs together!

2 posted on 06/01/2005 10:57:35 PM PDT by Khashayar (Screw You and Your Gas!)
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To: Khashayar
The US government will lose its crediblity among Iranians if they remove this terrorist regime from the terror list
3 posted on 06/01/2005 11:05:56 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

While I know that many students support our culture, what credibility do we have among them? They don't seem to have any with us.


4 posted on 06/02/2005 2:56:12 AM PDT by moog
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To: Khashayar
MEK has Marxist ideology, that's enough for me to put them in the trash bin of history.
5 posted on 06/02/2005 3:19:00 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Khashayar; freedom44; F14 Pilot; MLedeen; DoctorZIn; AdmSmith

"the Iran Policy Committee, a Washington think tank of former U.S. officials that specializes in Iran policy and favors the removal of the group from the terror list, said the move would "send a signal to the Iranian rulers that their days are numbered." In a written statement to questions about the MEK, the IPC called the organization the "best organized, most credible Iranian opposition group" that stands for a democratic, secular republic in Iran."

""send a signal to the Iranian rulers that their days are numbered."?? Please! The regime isn't afraid of them. They already know they're in trouble.
Removing MEK from the list will only alienate Iranians and cause distrust of U.S. intentions. Iranians DO NOT want to see MEK gain stregnth and support.

Have those IPC members ever talk to Iranians inside Iran to find out how they feel about MEK?

For the IPC to state that a marxist-islamic group "stands for a democratic and secular republic", is just asinine.


6 posted on 06/02/2005 5:45:58 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Khashayar

"That is a big mistake to support these group against the Iranians' will"

 

That's funny... the will of the Iranian people has been [temporarily] co-opted and consolidated under one man based on the principles of Velayat-e-Faqih.  When Khamenie and Velayat-e-Faqih are gone and freedom of press is established, we can have a legitimate discussion about the will of the Iranian people.

 

Until then, U.S. officials working on Iran should be extremely skeptical of any opposition to any opposition.

 

Khamenie has openly established his will and I think it’s asinine to abide by it.  His clergy shout “Death to America, Death to the MEK” in successive breaths.  He wants an anti-American Iranian president to replace Khatami in August.  Listening to the mullah’s Friday prayers, it’s obvious the MEK are posing a serious political and ideological threat to this theocracy.

 

The founders and leadership of the MEK were and are well educated.  They may have read Marx but have never called themselves Marxists.  It’s a SAVAK label that has been so effective in the disinformation campaign against them that it has propagated into MOIS language.

 

It’s asinine for American policy makers to allow the Iranian government, our nemesis, to define the MEK for us!  It’s time to let DOD and their first hand experiences define the MEK.  It’s obvious they are not terrorists so they shouldn’t be on our FTO list.  Their designation is destabilizing the entire FTO concept.

 

It’s also time to filter out Iranians who are not serious enough or not capable enough to do anything about fixing this explosive mess and decide what to do with them.  Arbitrarily throwing money at them is not the answer.  We have to stop protecting the regime and allow all of their opponents, including the MEK, to do what they do best.

 

The mullahs manufacture impudent dissenters and thrust them before cameras and microphones.  The patterns are clear… colorful hejabs, trimmed beards and modern glasses cannot bury the mullah’s betrayal of the Iranian people’s pursuit of liberty and happiness.

 

They can’t fool all of the people all of the time… but expect them to try.

7 posted on 06/02/2005 10:36:31 AM PDT by humint (Define the future... but only if you're prepared for war with the soldiers of the past and present!)
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To: humint
They may have read Marx but have never called themselves Marxists.

Is that so?:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/mek.htm

MEK was founded in the 1960s by a group of college-educated Iranian leftists opposed to the country's pro-Western ruler, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Although the group took part in the 1979 Islamic revolution that replaced the shah with a Shiite Islamist regime, MEK's ideology, a blend of Marxism and Islamism, put it at odds with the postrevolutionary government. In 1981, the group was driven from its bases on the Iran-Iraq border and resettled in Paris, where it began supporting Iraq in its eight-year war against Khomeini's Iran. In 1986, MEK moved its headquarters to Iraq where it received its primary support to attack the regime in Iran.


and Amir Taheri wrote June 23, 2003:

http://www.derafsh.org/News/37e.htm

The MEK was founded in 1965 after a split in a Marxist- Leninist movement that had waged a guerrilla action in northern Iran. Its ideology emerged as a mix of Islam and Marx, with ingredients from the Iranian religious sociologist Ali Shariati, who advocated an "Islam without a clergy." The MEK, with KGB help, engaged in a campaign against the Shah and sent cadres to Cuba, East Germany, South Yemen, and Palestinian camps in Lebanon to train as guerrillas.

Vladimir Kuzishkin, a former KGB head in Tehran, reveals in his memoirs that the MEK became a major source of information on Iran for Moscow. It also helped Moscow in its efforts to thwart U.S. influence in Iran. In 1970 and 1971 the MEK murdered five American military technicians working with the Iranian army. An MEK team tried to kidnap U.S. Ambassador Douglas MacArthur III in Tehran. The attempt failed and their leader, Rajavi Massoud, was handed a death sentence, later commuted thanks to a plea to the Shah from Soviet President Nikolai Podgorny.

During Iran's 1978-79 turmoil the MEK played an active role in helping Khomeini to power. Its squads burned cinemas, restaurants, hotels and bookshops, and murdered policemen. After Khomeini seized the reins, it did all it could to radicalize the regime, supporting the seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. Yet within a year the MEK -- now led by Rajavi, who had come out of prison during the revolution -- decided that the Khomeinist regime was not revolutionary. It had to be toppled; so there ensued a terrorist operation against the regime, that still continues.

Over the years the MEK organized an asylum seekers' racket -- 40,000 Iranians to Europe on bogus claims and in exchange for "voluntary contributions" of up to $10,000 each. Now a personality cult built around blind devotion to Rajavi, it has recruited its adepts mainly from relatives of people executed by the Khomeinist regime. Individuals are brainwashed, and not allowed to develop normal relationships outside the organization. They refuse to send their children to school, insisting that they be educated at home.

By 1988, the MEK had created a 10,000-strong fighting force in Iraq, which helped Saddam Hussein in his genocidal campaign against the Kurds, and also helped him crush the Iraqi Shiites in the south in 1991.
8 posted on 06/02/2005 11:25:46 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith

Amir Taheri and globalsecurity.org may be good sources of information for many things but you haven’t disproved my assertion. The truth is, the MEK as an organization has never referred to itself as Marxist in any of its literature. Buy and read the book, "Iranian Mojahedin", ISBN 0-300-04423-2.

In fact the NCRI of which the MEK is a member advocates a free market economy for Iran which stands in stark contrast to the assertion that the MEK is fundamentally a Marxist organization.


9 posted on 06/02/2005 12:22:30 PM PDT by humint (Define the future... but only if you're prepared for war with the soldiers of the past and present!)
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To: humint

"The truth is, the MEK as an organization has never referred to itself as Marxist."
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Do you trust the German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution? check out page 239 about the Revolutionary Marxists group:
http://www.verfassungsschutz.de/de/publikationen/verfassungsschutzbericht/vsbericht_2004/vsbericht_2004.pdf


10 posted on 06/02/2005 12:42:18 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith

My German is a little rusty but I like what I'm reading... and BTW Germany is the EU's largest trading partner with Iran so they/you have strong economic interests in keeping MEK on the EU terror list.

Page 239 is excellent!!!

"most powerful and most militant Iranian opposition group"  so they have been making some noise…

Page 240 was great too!!!

"Approximately 5000 supporters of the NCRI demonstrated in front of the European Union parliament in Brussels and demanded the MEK be removed from the EU's FTO list."  That’s not a small demonstration of Diaspora… To policy analysts, that translates into significant support for the group inside Iran.

Thanks for the link…

11 posted on 06/02/2005 2:35:38 PM PDT by humint (Define the future... but only if you're prepared for war with the soldiers of the past and present!)
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"Approximately 5000 supporters of the NCRI demonstrated in front of the European Union parliament in Brussels and demanded the MEK be removed from the EU's FTO list." That’s not a small demonstration of Diaspora… To policy analysts, that translates into significant support for the group inside Iran.

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That number (if true) would be exponentially larger than the size of any recent internal demonstrations against the mullahs.

12 posted on 06/02/2005 2:52:09 PM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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an excellent thread.

ping.


13 posted on 06/02/2005 5:13:19 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (My prayer of thanks is for all the Freepers who make my days so interesting,educational and loving.)
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To: humint

What is your point?

There is no good terrorist. Good terrorist is a dead one!

And I doubt that Iranians would rather live under another Marxist dictatorship led by a whore "Maryam Rajavi".


14 posted on 06/02/2005 7:23:58 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: wtc911

So you also support terrorists?


15 posted on 06/02/2005 7:24:32 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: humint

Well,,, you might be true but I'd rather live under the rule of idiot Mullahs than live under the rule of bunch of terrorists who dont hesitate to kill innocent people!

Moreover, I will fight against MEK if they try to invade my country as they did back in 1980s.

That is my final word!

And now you and your MEK like people can try to regain power in Iran. I think there is no difference between Mullahs and MEK in any way.


16 posted on 06/02/2005 7:29:29 PM PDT by Khashayar (Screw You and Your Gas!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

This terrorist group is so hated among us. I dont know why the US govt wants to support them!


17 posted on 06/02/2005 7:30:01 PM PDT by Khashayar (Screw You and Your Gas!)
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To: AdmSmith

I as a true Iranian hate MEK very much!


18 posted on 06/02/2005 7:31:23 PM PDT by Khashayar (Screw You and Your Gas!)
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To: nuconvert

MEK members are known as Hypocrites (Monafeghin) among Iranians. Because they easily change their colors to cheat people and foreign governments!


19 posted on 06/02/2005 7:32:18 PM PDT by Khashayar (Screw You and Your Gas!)
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To: AdmSmith

The biggest crime the Terrorist MEK committed was to fight against their own country men along with another criminal named Saddam!

I don't understand why some insist to portray this group as a trusted and nice Political group.

It is obvious that they are natural born terrorists!


20 posted on 06/02/2005 7:59:10 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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