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U.N.: Weapons Equipment Missing in Iraq
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/2/05 | Edith M. Lederer - AP

Posted on 06/02/2005 7:06:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 06/02/2005 7:06:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

No WMD or capacity? What's with all this "duel" use exceptions?


2 posted on 06/02/2005 7:09:31 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: NormsRevenge

So what they're saying is that everything was there to make WMD AND they left it there.


3 posted on 06/02/2005 7:10:43 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Where were they a couple years ago???

Makes you wonder if monies still were being scandalously funded after Saddam went underground.

4 posted on 06/02/2005 7:14:45 PM PDT by lizma
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To: NormsRevenge

Good read. I wouldn't be surprise if a lot of this stuff was grabbed selling as junk to smelters whatever, not that Iraq has any smelting capabiities, or do they? Things like pumps are composed mostly of perhaps pig iron. So like anywhere else it has value. Surely Iraq still has scrap yards, and folks finding and selling stuff. Just a thought. Those hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's that where going nuts during the opening days of OIF I surely where not organized insurgent groups. This process of finding and stealing stuff at various sites could have been an ongoing thing. Of course one who still believes Iraq had an ongoing record of R&D and some manufacturing of WMD's, I am not trying to presume all the stuff noticed missing is all innocent attempts to salvage junk and or sell it to feed ones family.


5 posted on 06/02/2005 7:17:31 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Sacajaweau

http://goexcelglobal.com/NJ_DefenseForce/images/iraqitour.pps


6 posted on 06/02/2005 7:19:53 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
UNITED NATIONS - U.N. satellite imagery experts have determined that material that could be used to make biological or chemical weapons and banned long-range missiles has been removed from 109 sites in Iraq, U.N. weapons inspectors said in a report obtained Thursday.

So...let me get this straight...

When Bush said that Iraq HAD WMD's...capacity to MAKE WMD's...and ILLEGAL delivery systems...he was lying according to all the PINHEADED LIEberals who worship at the UN altar...

But when the UN says that materials...that they HAVE KNOWN OF AND WERE MONITORING...that were WMD's and delivery systems ILLEGAL for Iraq to have...now says they are missing...NOW they want accountability as to WHERE these materials might be?

Just who was lying?!?!

I guess the UN Inspectors (Yes, I'm looking at YOU Scotty "Burger King Pedophile" Ritter) miss their kick-backs for looking the other way, and NOW want to pretend that they do their jobs!

7 posted on 06/02/2005 7:20:15 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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But when the UN says that materials...that they HAVE KNOWN OF AND WERE MONITORING...that were WMD's and delivery systems ILLEGAL for Iraq to have...now says they are missing...

They actually weren't illegal for Iraq to have.

8 posted on 06/02/2005 7:21:47 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: NormsRevenge

LOL! Pigs really do fly!


9 posted on 06/02/2005 7:29:14 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (If you must filibuster, it's because you don't have the votes to win honestly)
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To: Strategerist
They actually weren't illegal for Iraq to have.

Read again the Bold part...

UNITED NATIONS - U.N. satellite imagery experts have determined that material that could be used to make biological or chemical weapons and banned long-range missiles has been removed from 109 sites in Iraq, U.N. weapons inspectors said in a report obtained Thursday.

So are you saying that banned long-range missiles...that could carry those innocent chemical/biological items that may or may NOT have been weapons...weren't illegal?

And why have these banned missiles anyway...were they ONLY for "conventional" payloads?

And why were they in close proximity to these "suspect" dual-use chem/bio materials? Coincidence?

10 posted on 06/02/2005 7:30:43 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Strategerist
Actually they were. ISG report states they had missile that went beyond the range that was allowed.

Anyone else remember that some of this stuff wound up in junkyards in Europe?
11 posted on 06/02/2005 7:32:24 PM PDT by baystaterebel (F/8 and be there!)
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So are you saying that banned long-range missiles...that could carry those innocent chemical/biological items that may or may NOT have been weapons...weren't illegal?

I'm saying you have trouble with reading comprehension. Read it again. Carefully.

12 posted on 06/02/2005 7:33:57 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: baystaterebel
Oh and before I forget.

What was with all those barrels marked "Pesticide" camouflaged in ammo dumps? Same chemicals used in the making of chemical weapons.
13 posted on 06/02/2005 7:37:59 PM PDT by baystaterebel (F/8 and be there!)
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To: baystaterebel

Here's the situation.

First; need to calm down, read the article CAREFULLY, and go back and have a historical understanding of the 1991 terms of the war ending and the various UN resolutions.

The article isn't talking about WMDs at all.

It's talking about various industrial facilities, machines, etc. that could theoretically be used to MAKE WMDs, or make things that could then be used to make WMDs.

Iraq was prohibited from posessing WMDs. There were some things that are basically only used for making WMDs that it was prevented from having.

But there was a lot of equipment and industrial sites they were legally permitted to have as long as they had been regularly inspected by the UN; on the premise that the goal wasn't to shut down the Iraqi economy; it's impossible to have even a semi-functioning modern industrial base of a normal medium sized country like Iraq without having facilities that, while they can produce non-WMDs, could also be used to make WMD materials.

What the article is stating is that SINCE the war and US control of Iraq many of these items and facilities have been looted and scattered around.


14 posted on 06/02/2005 7:38:11 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: NormsRevenge

tell 'em to check with lost and found.


15 posted on 06/02/2005 7:38:13 PM PDT by isom35
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To: Strategerist
I read it...you dodged it.

Care to offer more explanaitions for your position...I am an Inorganic Chemist by trade, and have done Radiopharm chemistry...I can back my assertions as to "dual use"....can you?

16 posted on 06/02/2005 7:38:34 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: NormsRevenge

Curious the timing of this report is.


17 posted on 06/02/2005 7:39:03 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: baystaterebel
What was with all those barrels marked "Pesticide" camouflaged in ammo dumps? Same chemicals used in the making of chemical weapons.

Camoflaged in ammo dumps? More like lying around a farm.

And the reality is that all pesticides are very chemically similar to chemical weapons. Some of the nerve gases were IDed during pesticide research.

18 posted on 06/02/2005 7:39:21 PM PDT by Strategerist
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U.N. satellite imagery experts have determined that material that could be used to make biological or chemical weapons and banned long-range missiles

Your problem is you misunderstood the above (poorly worded, I grant you) sentence.

It's not talking about banned long range missles. It's material that could be used to MAKE banned long-range missles.

19 posted on 06/02/2005 7:40:25 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
U.N. satellite imagery experts have determined that material that could be used to make biological or chemical weapons and banned long-range missiles

Found in boxes labeled "ACME LONG-RANGE MISSILES". Some assembly required.

20 posted on 06/02/2005 7:43:54 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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