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Four Corners man sentenced for raping, beating man met on Internet chat room
kobtv.com ^ | 6/3/05 | Todd Dukart

Posted on 06/04/2005 2:22:39 PM PDT by NRA2BFree

A man who confessed to raping and beating another man he met on an Internet chat room was sentenced to nine years behind bars.

Donald Livingston, 29, told a judge that he and his boyfriend, Charlie Johnson, posed as a 12-year-old girl on the chat room. He said in court Friday that they did that to lure the victim to a park at night.

Livingston said they lured the victim, a 23-year-old Aztec man, to a public park, where the two disguised themselves in black and attacked the man.

Judge Thomas Hynes sentenced Livingston to nine years behind bars for the violent nature of the crime and the lack of remorse.

Johnson, whom authorities say also admitted to the crime, will be sentenced later this month.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; homosexuals; internetchatrooms; lackofforeplay; perverts; rape
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To: NRA2BFree
and I dont believe that child predators can be "cured",. therefore, they should get the death penalty.

Heck, in the 1800's we shot or hanged anybody who raped anybody, and we had a low rape rate back then, with zero recidivism rates.

61 posted on 06/05/2005 8:54:49 PM PDT by SandyB
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To: rogue yam

You can't admit when you've been brown sugared, marshmallowed, and baked.


62 posted on 06/05/2005 8:57:28 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: rogue yam

By your logic, the only evidence in this article that they raped and beat the man is the word of a convicted felon. When a person pleads guilty to a crime we generally accept that guilty plea as the truth. No evidence has been offered to suggest that he wasn't telling the truth. I still say everybody wins.


63 posted on 06/05/2005 9:11:14 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: rogue yam

You are injecting that you just know there was no 12 year old girl faked internet chat. You weren't there and have no evidence at all to prove the story wrong, so stop trying to be so damned pushy that your theory is correct. You are just guessing.


64 posted on 06/05/2005 9:13:46 PM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Yup, no heroes in this story.

Moral: chastity before marriage, and fidelity within marriage. It solves so many problems.

Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.


65 posted on 06/05/2005 9:19:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: LaraCroft; All

Why do you call people who consider homosexuality not normal or natural "bigots"?

"Gay" agenda talking points - anyone who (correctly) sees the correlation between child/youth molestation and homosexuality is a "bigot", "homophobe" or "hater".

I've notice your bias before.


66 posted on 06/05/2005 9:22:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: The Red Zone
You can't admit when you've been brown sugared, marshmallowed, and baked.

Slightly cute but completely insubstantial.

67 posted on 06/05/2005 10:56:45 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

You've been molassessed too.


68 posted on 06/05/2005 11:00:46 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: SittinYonder
By your logic, the only evidence in this article that they raped and beat the man is the word of a convicted felon. When a person pleads guilty to a crime we generally accept that guilty plea as the truth. No evidence has been offered to suggest that he wasn't telling the truth. I still say everybody wins.

You make no sense whatsoever. The rapist was convicted of rape, therefore he has been proven guilty to the satisfaction of a judge or jury. Just because somebody confesses to a crime, that does not mean every additional self-exculpatory statement they make need be believed. You should not talk of logic. You lack the ability to recognize it.

69 posted on 06/05/2005 11:01:34 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rockabyebaby
Suhweeeeeeeeeet, perverts killing each other, thank you God!

Tooooooooooo funny!

70 posted on 06/05/2005 11:09:38 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: shellshocked
You are injecting that you just know there was no 12 year old girl faked internet chat. You weren't there and have no evidence at all to prove the story wrong, so stop trying to be so damned pushy that your theory is correct. You are just guessing.

You are out of your mind. Nobody is claiming that any 12-year-old girl actually existed in this case. Nobody. She was invented by the rapist, either to lure the man he raped to the park, or later. This is obvious. I was merely pointing out this obvious fact to you because in your reply you mentioned a girl as though one existed. Further, I never said there was no internet chat regarding a girl. What I said was that the only evidence in the posted article of this chat was the statement of a convicted felon. I am not offering any theory about this case at all. I am making simple, logical observations about the substance of the posted article, and about the reactions of some FReepers thereto. That this is beyond your understanding speaks poorly of you.

71 posted on 06/05/2005 11:09:58 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Oh, and margarined.


72 posted on 06/05/2005 11:11:07 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: little jeremiah

I call them bigots because that is what they are.

Bigot: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

I differ and I object to the allegation that I am wrong and you are right. Hate who you wish, but don't pretend it isn't bigotry.


73 posted on 06/05/2005 11:32:14 PM PDT by LaraCroft (If the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, do the stupid get stupider?)
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To: LaraCroft

Are people bigots in your world if they object to sex with animals being practiced and/or normalized, as in taught to kids?

Are people bigots in your world if they object to incest being practiced and/or normalized, as in taught to kids?

Are people bigots in your world if they object to sado-masochism being practiced and/or normalized, as in taught to kids?

Do you think people are bigots if they object to consensual cannibalism?

Why aren't you a bigot for disagreeing with me?


74 posted on 06/05/2005 11:37:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: rogue yam
Agreed, but I'm certain there was a trail via email, or something else. Hopefully, the cops are brighter than to just take someone's word.
It used to be in California's Jury Instructions words to the effect of "Rape is a easy charge to make, hard to prove or disprove...."
75 posted on 06/06/2005 12:11:21 AM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: LaraCroft
You appear to at a minumum be a bigot against bigots real or imagined...

Homosexuals may be human beings BUT homosexual activity is depraved and gets no free pass EVEN if one screams bigot!!!

76 posted on 06/06/2005 1:21:10 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: NRA2BFree
and the lack of remorse.

Har Har! Idiot judges. Who gives a crap if the perverts don't show remorse? What kind of liberal baby boomer crap is this? Thanks, Republicans for backing down to the Dems and assuring America that our judicial system will go on being run by touchy feely bullcrap spreaders.

77 posted on 06/06/2005 6:51:23 AM PDT by swampfox98 (Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
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To: LaraCroft
I'd rather live next door to a gay man than a pedophile.

If you live next door to a 'gay' man then you probably already live next door to a pedophile. Their own studies point out that up to 73% of them have molested minors

78 posted on 06/06/2005 8:32:16 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: The Red Zone

you're making me hungry.
:)


79 posted on 06/06/2005 9:29:06 AM PDT by mother22wife21
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To: John O

I got sucked in again.

I usually just read the articles. I enjoy some of the replies, but there are so many bizarre hateful people here that refuse to accept that anyone has a belief different from their own. Just like radical Islam, I see little difference in radical Christianity. (Not the killing, obviously, but the pigheaded belief that you are right and no one else is).

I disagree by the way with your positing that 73% of gays have molested. If I were gay I would sue you for that is the most asinine thing I've ever seen.

I'm so sick of it all. I don't want to be associated with radical whack jobs that spew hatred. It's a shame too, because we do some good things with the freeps, though I'm fairly sure that none of you weirdos actually go out and get involved like that. I think I'll go back to advocating, and less to associating.


80 posted on 06/06/2005 7:18:27 PM PDT by LaraCroft (If the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, do the stupid get stupider?)
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