Posted on 06/05/2005 12:32:23 AM PDT by MRMEAN
Have you been to Africa?
I have not been to Africa. That being said, I do know the difference between being bright and uneducated and not being bright. I suspect that you do not. Bright refers to intelligence, the mental horsepower people are born with. I assert that it does not vary ethnically. To suggest otherwise is racist.
I rest my case.
And I rest mine
You cannot assert something which you do not know. You have said that you were never in Africa. I have been to a half dozen countries there.
I only said that they are not too bright in Africa.
I did not say it was because they are black.
In my travels, I have also noticed that the people in Thailand are among the very nicest in the world. This is not because they are south-east Asian. It's just another observation from one who travels extensively.
Every time someone says something - no matter as to whether or not it is true - if someone finds it disagreeable, the best response is to call them a racist. Any negative comments about Africa are therefore racist. We can only say nice things so as not to dent anyones' self esteem! I'm so sick of this.
The blacks of Zimbabwe will be expelled or exterminated by the new masters that Mugabe is selling the country to:
Zimbabwe -- Chinese to take over former white-owned farmsThe Chinese will take over running the farms, use that as an excuse to import 100,000 young male "agricultural workers" to work on them. If Mugabe misbehaves, the young men will dig up stashes of pre-positioned weapons and take out Mugabe's government in a dayThe Zimbabwe government is planning to offer former white farms for free to Chinese state-owned firms in a desperate bid to revive the key agricultural sector, ZimOnline has learnt.Zimbabwe's New Colonialists(Mugabe begins selling off his country to curry favor with the Chinese)
The police, under direct orders from Didymus Mutasa, the head of the secret police (Zimbabwe's Central Intelligence Organization), have brutally removed any competition to Chinese traders whose shops have sprung up around the capital over the past few years.
I don't think that will happen. More likely, Mugabe is getting a flow of cash into his bank accounts to shut up and allow the Chinese to flood the country with people.
What the blacks of Zimbabwe will discover once there is a critical mass of Chinese there, is that the Chinese want the mines, but do not need black workers. They have enough peasant workers they can ship over to reduce overcrowding in China. The blacks of Zimbabwe will get the same treatment the Indians got in the US: get out of the way or be exterminated
Actually I believe it's Madagascar.
Yep, I though it might have been Cathy Buckle at first, too.
Yep and that's very sad.
Cleopatra was of Greek descent
Alexander the Great of Macedonia (what's now northern Greece) conquered Egypt, and installed his people as the new ruling class.
Cleopatra was Greek.
My information comes from first hand experience in Cameroon, Ivory Coast, Togo, Senegal, Chad, Nigeria and Egypt. I found this abstract only now. This chart corroborates what I have witnessed first-hand.
Nigeria's big problem is Islam.
The educated/professional class is mostly Christian from the southern Ibo tribe, but they are outnumbered by the Muslims in the north.
Add to that an impending civil war between the Christians and Muslims, with outside jihaadist help for the Muslims, battling for control of the oil wealth
Cleopatra also had a nice Asp.
I believe culture affects IQ.
I don't know why anyone would even argue it doesn't.
The acrimony always comes up when folks debate what comprises and forms particular culture.
I think geographic isolation has always been a big factor.
Anyhow....you've pushed the big button here and many new age Conservatives prefer to ignore that area of realism.
I've spent a lot of time in Africa too....a whole lot in Sierra Leone in the 80s.
I do not believe one can bring entire cultures through massive change from near bronze age to our era in an historical overnight. Of course, it can be done with individuals and it helps if good leaders are found....something Lower Africa has never had.
Yep.
Biafra memories.
The Ibo lost out big.
They are heads above the Yoruba and Hausa in my view.
and for one reason.
The new blasphemy. The utterance of heretical thoughts will get you burned at the stake in today's PC world.
In every group, there are bright members and stupid members, and I try to deal with individuals as individuals. The distribution curves of IQ among ethnic groups, however, has been studied to death (however much academics are loath to publicize their data).
Explain how the children of Vietnamese boat people, living side by side with American blacks, going to the same inferior schools, within one generation rise out of there. Look at the faces of who's in the Tier-1 colleges majoring in engineering, pre-med, and other majors where a professor can't rationalize giving a good grade to somebody who has not demonstrated an ability to absorb hard data and reason effectively with it
Life is too short to spend any of it conversing with racists or their apologists.
I'm noting with interest the difference between Hong Kong (107) Taiwan(104) and the rest of China (100). I wonder how much of it is explained by generations of the brightest Chinese going to Hong Kong to seek their fortune in the capitalist oasis of China, as well as the Chinese middle-class fleeing communism to Taiwan?
Culture is the prime determining factor of success. Here I define "culture" according to the group's attitudes on what is considered admirable and what is contemptable.
A group that confers high status to scholars (as Asian and Jewish culture does) will turn out lots of excellent scholars, as parents will be very focused on the kids learning starting at birth. A culture that reserves its highest status for athletes, musicians, and gangsters will produce lots of those instead
That said, there is an identifiable genetic component, as seen by studies comparing kids adopted and raised by parents of a different racial group to kids raised by parents of their own group
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