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Man with concealed-carry permit shoots gunman
Dayton Daily News | June 4, 2005 | Kelli Wynn

Posted on 06/05/2005 7:33:57 AM PDT by SLB

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To: o_zarkman44

but darn, they didnt kill the criminal........tax money will be spent after all. Juvies????....... charge their parents with failure to control their kids too. if they can find them....


21 posted on 06/05/2005 8:39:00 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: SLB
But did he shoot him or just "strike him" with the weapon?

I think they mean that the robber was impressed. "Wow, sir, I am struck with the impressiveness of your weapon!"

22 posted on 06/05/2005 8:39:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: o_zarkman44

It would have been worth the price of admisson to see the look on those two jackasses face when the 40 year old "easy mark" victum pulled out that Glock and began capping of rounds. *LOL*


23 posted on 06/05/2005 8:46:54 AM PDT by MudSlide
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To: isthisnickcool
A 23 is pretty darn big to conceal.

Depends on how big you are, and what you're wearing. I really need to lose some weight, but right now, given a coat, I could conceal a S&W N-Frame!

Mark

24 posted on 06/05/2005 8:48:34 AM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: SLB
he needs to work on grouping, I believe he should have had more success in saving taxpayers money on a trial for those two

will have to send him a letter chastizing and ask him to take more time at the range

25 posted on 06/05/2005 8:56:27 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: MarkL
I have a 27 and it's real easy to conceal. Much easier than an AR-15:)
26 posted on 06/05/2005 9:07:35 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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To: SLB

12:45AM.........?

Glad he survived his Oh Dark 45 walk through the valley.....:o)

Scary part of this is a presstitute got the model and caliber right in the text ?!?!? Were doooomed !


27 posted on 06/05/2005 10:17:54 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: SLB
***but the reporting does leave this an open issue.***

That's because of the 'reporter' -- Kelli Wynn.
It's new union rule (must be) - all articles with guns are now written by ditzy reporterettes who have zero knowledge of guns. The surprising thing is she didn't get AK-47 or "assault rifle" into this piece of elementary school journalism.

BTW, there's an updated version of this written by a REAL reporter and little miss Kelli omitted a LOT of pertinent facts on the perps and how this thing went down.

Man describes shooting teen robbers
bugmenot might be required

Here's some of it:

"Shortly after the 12:45 a.m. shooting, a 17-year-old showed up at Good Samaritan Hospital in a stolen Jeep. He was admitted with gunshot wounds to his leg, abdomen and arms, according to Dayton police, who were contacted by hospital officials. The 17-year-old was in fair condition Saturday evening.

The 17-year-old was with two 16-year-olds. Police said all three matched the description of the gunmen and a male seen by Hill in an alley north of Riverview Avenue and Catalpa Drive, where the attempted robbery occurred.

Police arrested the younger teens as they tried to leave the hospital. They were taken to the Family Court Center, pending delinquency charges of aggravated robbery and receiving stolen property.

Hill had been walking to a local store when two teenagers wearing dark clothing approached him. One shoved him, he turned around, and both flashed handguns, according to a police report.

The two males demanded money, Hill said in an interview Saturday. He grabbed one gunman's weapon, then let go and backed away with outstretched hands when he realized another gun was targeting him, he said. He then pulled his weapon and, after hesitating, fired.

Hill said he's a single parent of a 20-year-old son, teaches martial arts, and was robbed 20 years ago while working at a convenience store on Gettysburg Avenue near Necco Avenue — all factors in his decision to obtain a concealed weapon permit.


28 posted on 06/05/2005 11:30:28 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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Ahem. Kelli being female isn't relative to Kelli being ignorant of firearms. There are lots of BOYS ignorant of firearms.

Little Miss Kelli is probably a woman, being a writer for papers, errant or not, and calling her a girl seems pedantic.

Love, "Little Miss Lara"


29 posted on 06/05/2005 11:40:26 AM PDT by LaraCroft (If the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, do the stupid get stupider?)
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***Love, "Little Miss Lara"**

Awwwwwwww, "darn" it. I knew 'it' was coming. Kindly understand, no personal offense was meant and DEFINATELY not to women in general. Only to females pretending to be reporters and writing about 'stuff' they know nothing about.

But please try understand, the p.c. nonsense in 'journalism' is out of hand. Especially (IMO) when it comes to guns and/or gun crime articles. I swear if one checks 99.65487% of articles that have a gun somewhere in it, it's now written by a female or one contributed - that was my 'union rule' sarcasm. And 99.5% of the time the article is wrong as to the gun part.

Even Fox News does (did) it - a pistol used in a shooting magically became an AK-47 when Laurie Dhue 'reported' on it. This was before ANY info was released from the police. But AK-47 sounds nice and scary on TV doesn't it. Oh and as soon as the gun was ID'd as a pistol by the cops Laurie Dhue never mentioned the shooting again!

I've written to these female reporters on their BLATANT mistakes countless times and I have now given up do the idiotic responses received. One blamed 'their gun expert' and another basically responded, 'so what'.

"So What", Well excuse me but when every rifle (or handgun) used in a crime becomes an AK-47 in their story it IS not a 'so what'. It's bad journalism, utter IGNORANCE, or - shock - pushing their personal anti-gun agenda.

btw, I believe you used the word pedantic out of context. But then again I'm not an expert on that - or pretend to be for a newspaper. Wanna talk about guns?
(I'm kidding, don't have a hissy fit)

30 posted on 06/05/2005 12:32:40 PM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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Ha. I just propose that MOST of the MSM, male and female is ignorant of guns. Laurie Dhue reads cue cards but they are in such a hurry to be first with news, or filling air time that they rarely try to be correct. I see the same lack in books, with authors writing nonsense regarding guns, whether it's a Glock with the safety on, or shooting someone and having them fly back 10 feet. I guess I should add ignorance of guns and physics.

More and more people are ignorant of guns, because of the relative safety of society and lack of need to hunt or keep coyotes from your chickens.

Is the media a willing accomplice to eliminating guns, or just a product of ignorance as to what they are doing?

Lastly, stereotyping women as ignorant of guns seems pedantic to me. I think women not being more active in the 'sport' is societal also. That and maybe men being very condiscending to women at the range. Until you beat 'em anyway.
;o)


31 posted on 06/05/2005 1:16:16 PM PDT by LaraCroft (If the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, do the stupid get stupider?)
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To: SLB
This guy is good, draws against the drop and nails one of two, disorients both to the point that they can no longer pursue their aggression. Looks good from the available info.
32 posted on 06/05/2005 1:25:24 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: isthisnickcool
I have a 27 and it's real easy to conceal. Much easier than an AR-15:)

Well, if I gain about another 50 pounds, and wear a trench coat, I could probably conceal one of Ronnie Barrett's little toys! LOL

Mark

33 posted on 06/05/2005 4:51:11 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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