Posted on 06/06/2005 6:44:04 PM PDT by wagglebee
Campaigners have penned an open letter to Bob Geldof in protest at his decision to invite the Pope to support Live 8.
The National Secular Society (NSS) is pointing to the Vatican's refusal to condone the use of condoms, saying it has helped spread HIV in Africa.
The society, which campaigns for religion to be taken out of public life, says it will create a counter-campaign of protest against any decision by Pope Benedict XVI to get involved.
NSS executive director Keith Porteous Wood said Geldof should not have written to the Pope about attending the Hyde Park event.
He said: "Inviting the Pope to Live 8 would be a slap in the face for all those currently working to stem the spread of Aids in Africa.
"Aids is destroying lives, communities and, ultimately, will destroy whole nations for generations to come unless greater efforts are made to check it.
"To invite the Pope, who has supported and reinforced this inhumane policy, to an event aimed at combating poverty through protest, verges on an obscenity. The invitation must be withdrawn immediately."
At the launch of Live 8, singer Sir Elton John raised his concerns about the invitation, saying: "When you take into consideration their (the Catholic Church's) views of contraception, and how this affects the spread of Aids... it adds to the general poverty of this region, doesn't it?"
The event in London's Hyde Park - featuring Madonna, Robbie Williams and Paul McCartney - will draw attention to poverty and debt in the developing world.
Five free concerts will take place simultaneously in London, Paris, Berlin, Rome and Philadelphia on July 2.
He doesn't approve of your homosexuality either.
Benedict XVI ping!
I am no Catholic, but I am pretty sure the Pope is for abstinence, the best way to "check" HIV.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
Nice name: "Porteous Wood". BTW, what does "porteous" mean? It is not in my dictionary.
The left will NEVER accept abstinence as a solution for anything.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
I marvel at how many people think that a condom is the solution to the problem of AIDS in Africa.
Sounds like they're off to an ominous start.
What's ironic is that if most AIDS "victims" followed the teachings of the Church, they wouldn't have AIDS.
I am of course not referring to those who contracted AIDS through a bad blood transfusion.
"I marvel at how many people think that a condom is the solution to the problem of AIDS in Africa."
So true.
The whole condom myth is such a lie.
Editor of Rubber Chemistry and Technology, Dr. C. Michael Roland of the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory in Washington D.C., spoke about his research on "intrinsic flaws" in latex rubber condoms and surgical gloves (published in Rubber World, June, 1993).
Roland said that what I am about to relate is "common knowledge among good scientists who have no political agenda."
Electron microscopy reveals the HIV virus to be about O.1 microns in size (a micron is a millionth of a metre). It is 60 times smaller than a syphilis bacterium, and 450 times smaller than a single human sperm.
The standard U.S. government leakage test (ASTM) will detect water leakage through holes only as small as 10 to 12 microns (most condoms sold in Canada are made in the U.S.A., but I'll mention the Canadian test below).
Roland says in good tests based on these standards, 33% of all condoms tested allowed HIV-sized particles through, and that "spermicidal agents such as nonoxonol-9 may actually ease the passage."
Roland's paper shows electron microscopy photos of natural latex. You can see the natural holes, or intrinsic flaws. The "inherent defects in natural rubber range between 5 and 70 microns."
And it's not as if governments don't know. A study by Dr. R.F. Carey of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control reports that "leakage of HIV-sized particles through latex condoms was detectable for as many as 29 of 89
condoms tested." These were brand new, pre-approved condoms. But Roland says a closer reading of Carey's data actually yields a 78% HIV-leakage rate, and concludes: "That the CDC would promote condoms based on [this] study...suggests its agenda is concerned with something other than public
health and welfare." The federal government's standard tests, he adds, "cannot detect flaws even 70 times larger than the AIDS virus."
Such tests are "blind to leakage volumes less tha one microliter - yet this quantity of fluid from an AIDS-infected individual has been found to contain as
many as 100,000 HIV particles."
As one U.S. surgeon memorably put it, "The HIV virus can go through a condom like a bullet through a tennis net."
It's the same story with latex gloves. Gloves from four different manufacturers revealed "pits as large as 15 microns wide and 30 microns deep." More relevant to HIV transmission, "5 micron-wide channels, penetrating the entire thickness were found in all the gloves." He said the presence of such defects in latex "is well established."
For Canada, the story is the same. A standard Health and Welfare Canada test of condoms manufactured between 1987 and 1990, based on stringent
tests of pressure, leakage, and volume (as in the U.S., there is no effort to examine micron-level leakage), reported that an astonishing 40% of the condoms tested failed at least one of the tests. Tests in 1991 showed an "improved" 28% rate.
Even those who still believe in 'AIDS' know condoms have had no effect whatsoever.
'AIDS' IN AFRICA
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GuestColumns/Fumento20050414.shtml
Just proves their idiocy and absolute refusal to see evil and try to stop it if possible. To call these people "progressives" is rediculous.
"Elton John raised his concerns about the invitation"
Sir Gay has been running around promoting the AIDS myth for years now. Suddenly he has second thoughts about condoms?
What prompted that?
Actually I read it wrong. Sir Gay has second thought about the Pope not condoms. Figures!
Yes, Paul. When the men refuse to put them on due to some sort of cultural pride, what are ya gonna do? They cannot be forced. And this is after being educated on the death sentence of the dreaded disease.
That is what I was alluding to. Even in this country, many will not use one.
Geldof's terrorist threat
Geldof's voice is undoubtedly outlawed as a weapon of war
Bob Geldof has warned the leaders of the world's eight biggest economies not to come to their imminent Edinburgh summit unless they give Africa much more money. But what if they defy him and come anyway?
The implication is clear. If they did that, he would almost certainly sing to them. Then where would they be? Geldof's singing voice is undoubtedly outlawed under various Geneva Conventions as a weapon of war, like poison gas. His speaking voice, to which nowadays he resorts more often, is only a few degrees less lethal, especially to civilian populations. Geldof has used both against women and children. Admittedly, he has not sung much for several years, but the threat is always there; hanging over Europe and the world.
The G8 leaders have not yet developed a weapon to combat or deter Geldof's singing. Doubtless, fear of that voice is one of the reasons why the British Government will decide to build a new generation of nuclear weapons. We must continue to deter Geldof's Fook Range vowels.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/06/04/do0405.xml
So true. Bump that.
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