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Brussels breathes sigh of relief that 'treaty is not dead' (DENIAL NOT JUST A RIVER IN EGYPT)
The Scotsman ^ | June 7, 2005 | NICOLA SMITH

Posted on 06/06/2005 10:39:38 PM PDT by MadIvan

BRUSSELS gave a cautious welcome to Jack Straw's announcement yesterday, with many leaders believing it showed that the constitution was still alive.

Speaking before a meeting of European Union finance ministers, Jean-Claude Juncker, Luxembourg's prime minister, whose country holds the EU presidency, said the UK decision was a signal the constitution was "not dead".

Jean Asselborn, his foreign minister, expressed the general sense of relief in Brussels that the British government had not shelved its constitution plans altogether.

"Despite the setbacks suffered over the last few days, the Treaty is still alive," he said.

"We welcome the fact that the British government has decided to leave open the possibility of reintroducing a bill providing for a UK referendum at a later stage."

Jose Manuel Barroso, the president of the European Commission, said that now was "a time for Europe to listen and think".

"We understand the need for some member states to pause and reflect," he said, but he stressed that "every member state is equally important in the European Union. We need to hear opinions from all 25 member states."

Mr Barroso and Mr Juncker, who was said to be close to tears after the Dutch No, have made clear they are determined to forge ahead at any cost with the ratification process in every EU country.

The Luxembourg leader is next in the dock when his country goes to the polls over the constitution on 10 July. He is the only European leader to have linked his political fate to the outcome, having promised to resign if the people vote No.

Europe is becoming increasingly divided over how to respond to the overwhelming rejection of the constitution by two of the EU's founding member states.

Mr Straw's announcement flies in the face of calls at the weekend by the German and French leaders, Gerhard Schröder and Jacques Chirac, to fully back the ratification process.

Poland also turned up the heat on the UK when Adam Rotfeld, its foreign minister, said Warsaw intended to go ahead with a national poll regardless of the British position.

"The French, Dutch or British cannot make the decision for us," he said. "We should decide for ourselves ... through a referendum."

Brussels has warned on several occasions against "unilateral action" on the issue and London has been at pains to stress that Britain will not try to decide the fate of the constitution alone.

"It's a bit like Murder on the Orient Express. If the constitution is going to be killed then everybody's prints have to be on the knife," said a British official in Brussels.

But signs are in place that other countries are now coming round to the British view of putting the process on the back burner.

Denmark, scheduled to hold a referendum this autumn, has said it will only go ahead if the circumstances are right.

Ireland too is reluctant to commit itself to proceeding with a poll.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: euconstitution; eurofreude; europe; uk
Dennis Skinner, the far-left Labour MP from Bolsover, also known as "The Beast of Bolsover", was unexpectedly brilliant yesterday - he suggested that we send the EU leadership a copy of Monty Python's Dead Parrot sketch.

I wish these fools would get over themselves. It is not happening. And boo bloody hoo to you Mr. Juncker, you big girl's blouse.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 06/06/2005 10:39:40 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 06/06/2005 10:39:58 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan
"he suggested that we send the EU leadership a copy of Monty Python's Dead Parrot sketch."

LOL!

That's great.:)

3 posted on 06/06/2005 10:44:13 PM PDT by MozartLover ( Courage is the first of human qualities because it is the quality which guarantees all others.)
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To: MadIvan
They're just "pinnin'" for the fiords'"
4 posted on 06/06/2005 10:46:54 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: 2111USMC

I'm also reminded of the "Bring Out Your Dead" segment from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

"I'm not dead...I feel happy...I feel happy..."

Regards, Ivan


5 posted on 06/06/2005 10:47:47 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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"Denmark, scheduled to hold a referendum this autumn, has said it will only go ahead if the circumstances are right."

This suggests that the game is being rigged.

6 posted on 06/06/2005 10:53:16 PM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: MadIvan
"... the Treaty is still alive," he said.

Ah...the ever-classic 'No' Means 'Yes'.

7 posted on 06/06/2005 10:55:22 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Every evil which liberals imagine Judaism and Christianity to be, islam is.)
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To: Neanderthal

I would agree if it was say, Italy. But Denmark is staunchy anti-EU - I suggest they're waiting for the most convenient moment to plunge the dagger in.

Regards, Ivan


8 posted on 06/06/2005 10:55:37 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan
he suggested that we send the EU leadership a copy of Monty Python's Dead Parrot sketch.

I would seldom agree with the "The Beast of Bolsover" except when he shows such convincing humor.

9 posted on 06/06/2005 10:56:29 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: stripes1776

The EU is one of the few subjects that the Labour far Left shows no cognitive dissonance - they hate it for being anti-democratic and for the Common Agricultural Policy (subsidies to French farmers).

And in this instance, they're correct.

Regards, Ivan


10 posted on 06/06/2005 10:58:21 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan
My dear friend Ivan. You do not seem to understand. The democratic process is a front for the elites. They only allow it to work when the votes are in their favour. Barring that, they will stuff ballots, use courts or order a recount or revote until we "the people" get it right. It has become rule by elites. Nine men in black robes decided when life begins. Fourteen members in the US senate have decided what is good for us. And the bureaucrats in Brussels will do the same for you.

I hate to be cynical but that is clearly the way things are. When I was in graduate school I read an unpublished essay by non other than Herbert Marcuse who called democracy a farce for the benefit of the masses. We are lulled into thinking our votes count and we have a say, but the elites do what they want anyway. I hate to admit thirty years later, that he was probably right.



11 posted on 06/06/2005 11:08:08 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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"And boo bloody hoo to you Mr. Juncker, you big girl's blouse."

I'm not quite sure what you mean, but it's funny!

12 posted on 06/06/2005 11:11:48 PM PDT by decal (Where were YOU when AndyScam broke? Sluthering, perhaps?)
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To: MadIvan
The EU is one of the few subjects that the Labour far Left shows no cognitive dissonance - they hate it for being anti-democratic and for the Common Agricultural Policy (subsidies to French farmers).

It is a rare day that I agree with Laborites, but I guess contrary to all meaning that trite saying does contain a grain of interest after all: politics makes strange bedfellows.

13 posted on 06/06/2005 11:12:35 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: MadIvan

It's alive! It's alive! It's alive!!

14 posted on 06/06/2005 11:16:55 PM PDT by Maceman (The Qur'an is Qur'ap.)
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To: MadIvan

It's bereft of life! It is expired, dead!

great skit, but I don't think they'll find it funny in Brussels.



15 posted on 06/06/2005 11:30:52 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: MadIvan

The left hates it because it is not communist enough.


16 posted on 06/06/2005 11:36:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cacique
Denmark, scheduled to hold a referendum this autumn, has said it will only go ahead if the circumstances are right.

Translation: A vote will be held only when and if the polls indciate that the result will be the one desired by the elite political class.

17 posted on 06/06/2005 11:41:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: MadIvan; All
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18 posted on 06/07/2005 12:30:48 AM PDT by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)...)
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To: MadIvan

lol


19 posted on 06/07/2005 12:57:38 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: MadIvan
the constitution is going to be killed then everybody's prints have to be on the knife,

Backwards. Everybody has to be on board or it is DOA.

20 posted on 06/07/2005 1:00:35 PM PDT by RightWhale (Bush got better grades than Kerry)
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