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To: Nov3
They just can't say low carb.

Because it's not low carb. You can have as many carbs as you want on a low-glycemic index diet, so long as the glycemic index is low. This includes whole-grain breads, beans, and lots of other goodies. The premise is you don't restrict your fats or your carbs, but rather you choose good fats and good carbs.

16 posted on 06/07/2005 7:49:39 AM PDT by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: alnick
as many carbs as you want on a low-glycemic index diet, so long as the glycemic index is low.

If you will thoroughly research the matter you will find that these diets are "low-carb". They are high fiber (which they include in the carb count) and fiber is not digestable. The carbs they allow also are slower to digest which blunts the insulin response. It is the exact mechanism that the demonized low-carb people promote for the maintenence portion of their "unhealthy" diets.

This represents a crack in the calorie is a calorie BS

22 posted on 06/07/2005 7:56:30 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: alnick
You can have as many carbs as you want on a low-glycemic index diet, so long as the glycemic index is low. This includes whole-grain breads, beans, and lots of other goodies

Er, no. Bread has just about the same glycemic index whether it's wholegrain or not. Wholegrain bread has more vitamins, to be sure, but it still tweaks the insulin response and causes weight gain in susceptible people.

29 posted on 06/07/2005 8:20:12 AM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: alnick

"Because it's not low carb. You can have as many carbs as you want on a low-glycemic index diet, so long as the glycemic index is low. This includes whole-grain breads, beans, and lots of other goodies."

No low carb cookie for you! Did ya read the article?

It says -

> Carbohydrates with a low-glycemic index include foods such as nonstarchy vegetables, fruit, legumes, nuts and diary products, according to the report in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. <

NON STARCHY. Whole grain bread are not included in this study. They have a lower glycemic index than table sugar, but not low enough. If the dieters had restricted the use of legumes and limited fruit consumption, they would have done even better.


30 posted on 06/07/2005 8:22:53 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: alnick

If I had all the whole grain bread and beans I wanted, I'd gain 20 pounds a week. I lost 20 on the Zone, which limits protein to 3 oz per meal for me and allows huge amounts of low glycemic veggies and berries. Other fruit in moderation. But no bread, rolls, cake whether whole grain or not. The equivalency tables are quite remarkable.as I recall, you can have 1/4 English muffin or four cups of zucchini for the same number of carbs.


83 posted on 06/07/2005 11:09:11 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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