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S. Texans fear region is violent gang's new stomping grounds (MS-13)
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 06/07/2005 | Brian Chasnoff

Posted on 06/07/2005 1:48:44 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

The capture of two Salvadoran gang suspects on a ranch near Dilley has heightened fears that members of the violent Mara Salvatrucha gang are moving in increasing numbers through South Texas.

Capping a three-day manhunt that began amid the ransacking of five ranch houses last week, federal and local authorities apprehended Rafael Torres Platero, 35, and Miguel Amauri Becerra Reyes, 27, on Friday.

The two men left a trail of vandalism and theft through La Salle and Frio counties, slicing through fences and stealing weapons and vehicles, area law enforcement officials allege.

Inside one of the homes, in a chilling move, graffiti contained messages for future gang members passing through the area, "warning them to be careful of snakes and helicopters," La Salle County Sheriff Robbie Thomas said.

"There's no doubt we're seeing more of them coming through this area," said Norman Townsend, head of the FBI office in Laredo. "Each week, we capture about one or two" throughout Texas.

Authorities have seen an increased presence of Mara Salvatrucha, also know as MS-13, in South Texas since the reputed leader of the gang, Ebner Anibal Rivera Paz, was arrested in Falfurrias in late February. He was wanted by Honduran officials in connection with a shooting attack on a bus full of Christmas shoppers that killed 28 people.

Notoriously violent, MS-13 formed in the 1980s by undocumented immigrants in the Los Angeles area who then were deported to their homelands.

There are up to 10,000 members in the United States, according to the National Drug Intelligence Center, an arm of the U.S. Justice Department.

The FBI and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security have separate task forces addressing the gang's activities in the United States, Townsend said.

Authorities, using FBI intelligence reports, identified the two men captured Friday as members of the MS-13 gang, Thomas said.

The pair were believed to be making their way to Houston, where a large MS-13 cell is located, Thomas said.

Local police began searching for the men early Wednesday after a report of a break-in came in Tuesday night north of Gardendale in northern La Salle County. Other reports then came from near Dilley along the Frio and La Salle county line.

A ranch foreman who found the third home vandalized said he discovered the destruction Wednesday morning when he drove to the house with his two young daughters.

"They had gone through every room and closet in the house and dumped everything out on the floor," said the foreman, who requested his name be withheld for fear of retribution at the hands of the gang.

The invaders drank the owner's stash of liquor and beer and scoured the gun cabinet, stealing a .22-caliber handgun, a 20-gauge shotgun and a large amount of ammunition, the foreman said.

The men also stole two all-terrain vehicles from the ranch, stirring the foreman to pursue the invaders on his own Thursday morning. He discovered one ATV abandoned on his property because the men had filled it with fuel for a weed cutter.

The trail of the other stolen ATV led to a nearby ranch, he said.

After officials couldn't find the invaders, the FBI and the Texas Rangers joined the Sheriff's Department and the Border Patrol on Friday morning in an intensified effort involving more than 30 authorities in more than 20 cars.

Searchers lost the ATV trail on a rocky road and called in a Border Patrol helicopter Friday afternoon.

The pilots found the second ATV, which had been spray painted black and gray to resemble camouflage, abandoned in a field near the Frio River. Filled cans of gasoline and were being hauled in the vehicle's trailer.

Minutes later, authorities in the helicopter saw two men lying in a field of 4-foot-tall grass and radioed to officials on the ground. Border Patrol agents jumped from their trucks and nearly stumbled over the pair, who were wearing camouflage.

Thomas said they were carrying four stolen firearms: a rifle, a pistol and two shotguns — including one with a sawed-off stock. No shots were fired, and the men did not try to run away.

Authorities believe the two men became lost on the ranch property.

The two suspects are charged with five counts of burglary and are being held at La Salle County Jail on bonds of $50,000 each, Thomas said.

An FBI investigation is under way to determine whether to charge the men with immigration violations, Townsend said.

A La Salle County ranch appraiser whose 200-acre spread was infiltrated said the burglaries have amplified fears among local ranchers that MS-13 could become a pervasive presence in the area.

"We're scared," said the appraiser, who also requested his name be withheld. "We're worried for our families. We're worried for our neighbors."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: District of Columbia; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; borderwar; gangs; illegals; immigrantlist; ms13
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"An FBI investigation is under way to determine whether to charge the men with immigration violations, Townsend said."

Get a rope!

1 posted on 06/07/2005 1:48:44 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

Those illegals are only here to do the crimes that Americans won't.


2 posted on 06/07/2005 1:54:37 PM PDT by boofus
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To: SwinneySwitch

Declare an SOS (Shoot On Sight).


3 posted on 06/07/2005 1:57:33 PM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male)
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To: boofus

Didn't I just recently hear that Texans don't want no stinking minutemen. So talk nice to the mean ole gang members and hope they don't hurt you.


4 posted on 06/07/2005 1:58:17 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: SwinneySwitch

Should have shot them while they were trying to escape.


5 posted on 06/07/2005 2:00:35 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: SwinneySwitch
There are up to 10,000 members in the United States

KILL THEM ALL.

6 posted on 06/07/2005 2:01:54 PM PDT by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Tarpon

sheila jackson lee didn't want the Minutemen and she in no way represents the will of the vast majority of Texans. She may as well speak for Mars.

Besides alot of Texans went to Arizona for the MMP. What is Jackass Lee going to? Throw resident Texans out of state?


7 posted on 06/07/2005 2:06:35 PM PDT by boofus
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To: SwinneySwitch
But....but....Bush said that illegals were good for America.....how can this be????? /sarcasm

Where's Wyatt Earp when you need him?

"I see a red sash, I kill the man wearin' it!"

8 posted on 06/07/2005 2:08:06 PM PDT by Bombardier (Immigration isn't the problem, illegals are! SUPPORT THE MINUTEMAN PROJECT!)
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To: stevio

yep.. just dont maim.... kill
id move down there just to show off my skill....


9 posted on 06/07/2005 2:09:10 PM PDT by Twist_T (it is never to late to make a difference)
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To: starsandstrips; thoolou; Falcon_Hedge; KC_for_Freedom; PetroniDE; the mo; MSM; Sweet_Sunflower29; ..

MS-13 Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


10 posted on 06/07/2005 2:11:49 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations!)
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To: Tarpon

Time to buy some geese to make some noise and a few bad dogs to roam the place. Put signs up in Spanish, English and any other language that there are dogs that will bite. You will be amazed at the number of burglars that will not bother with a place that has a dog or two. We live in a rural area and every home that did not have a dog was ripped off. The troopers told us that our dogs were probably a factor in their choice of places to hit. Some places were hit more than once.


11 posted on 06/07/2005 2:14:59 PM PDT by oldironsides
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To: SwinneySwitch

Time for a new tagline


12 posted on 06/07/2005 2:21:58 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: oldironsides

You'd also be suprised at how much less traffic you'd get with a couple of tatooed MS-13 hides nailed to your front gate.


13 posted on 06/07/2005 2:30:18 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: Tarpon

"Didn't I just recently hear that Texans don't want no stinking minutemen."

That would be the politicians. The people sure do. They've had enough.


14 posted on 06/07/2005 2:34:02 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (Voter Rage)
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To: Bacon Man; Hap; humblegunner; HoustonCurmudgeon; Eaker; TheMom; RikaStrom; bobbyd; Flyer; ...
The pair were believed to be making their way to Houston, where a large MS-13 cell is located, Thomas said.

Y'all are aware of this, right? (Like being aware will help us or something.)
15 posted on 06/07/2005 2:36:00 PM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: Tarpon

Not from this Texan, you didn't.


16 posted on 06/07/2005 2:36:59 PM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: Xenalyte; Hap; humblegunner

Oh yea. The House of Bacon is very well armed.


17 posted on 06/07/2005 2:40:29 PM PDT by Bacon Man (Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: stevio

SSS Shoot, shovel and shut-up


18 posted on 06/07/2005 2:46:36 PM PDT by texpat72 (<><)
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To: texpat72
SSS Shoot, shovel and shut-up

That was going to be my suggestion. You beat me to it.

Some things are better off just disappearing.

19 posted on 06/07/2005 2:49:52 PM PDT by Freebird Forever (Imagine if islam controlled the internet.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
One of these days these animals will break into a home with the family there. The fact that they did this as soon as they got on the US side of the border shows you the macho arrogance of these MS-13 people. These guys gotta be stopped.
20 posted on 06/07/2005 2:50:37 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Xenalyte

Oh, here in Houston the Mayor and Police Chief are reacting to this news by announcing a new crackdown on jaywalking...

Simply too pathetic for words.


21 posted on 06/07/2005 2:54:37 PM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Many thanks GOP and Bush for you're open borders policies, I'll be sure to keep voting GOP /NOT.


22 posted on 06/07/2005 2:55:20 PM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: BrewingFrog; humblegunner; bobbyd; Eaker; Flyer; TheMom

That's right! I forgot about that. I feel safe now.

BTW, tell about the brew! And how come you haven't made it to any Houston FReeper gatherings? We adore beer.


23 posted on 06/07/2005 2:57:18 PM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: gubamyster

ping


24 posted on 06/07/2005 2:58:36 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


25 posted on 06/07/2005 3:02:09 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: ETERNAL WARMING; All

"Didn't I just recently hear that Texans don't want no stinking minutemen."

That would be the politicians. The people sure do. They've had enough.

+++

Buying lots of FiveSeveN ammo right now.

It is going to come down to that...fedgov will do squat to close the borders - it's just not in the plan for us.



26 posted on 06/07/2005 3:11:36 PM PDT by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Coming to a town near you - for all the RINO and Bush brown nosers - just wait till you have one of these punks demanding money from you. Dont think that you are safe because you live in NY or Mass - they are spreading like flies and the criminal element of these illegal groups is emboldened by Bush's labeling of law abiding honest citizens protecting our border as vigilantes. RINOs (including Bush and McCain) are rotten to the core and could care less about American values and the family.


27 posted on 06/07/2005 3:16:34 PM PDT by theinwithin (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Notoriously violent, MS-13 formed in the 1980s by undocumented immigrants in the Los Angeles area who then were deported to their homelands.

At least they weren't illegal aliens—just immigrants who left home without their documents.

28 posted on 06/07/2005 3:19:08 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: SwinneySwitch

So much for being safe out in the country. I'll take my chances in the city.


29 posted on 06/07/2005 3:20:12 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: theinwithin
I agree with every word. I remember times past when here on FR I would be slammed for saying anything bad about Bush, even related to illegals. However, the tide has changed and I believe if one issue can be the downfall of the Repubs, it is illegal immigration.
30 posted on 06/07/2005 3:24:17 PM PDT by devane617
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To: SwinneySwitch
He discovered one ATV abandoned on his property because the men had filled it with fuel for a weed cutter.

In other words, two-stroke gas-oil mixture.

31 posted on 06/07/2005 3:24:51 PM PDT by steve86
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To: BrewingFrog


Good Ole Bill White...what a genius that clown is.

I have the business end of an AR-15 ready for the MS-13.


32 posted on 06/07/2005 3:25:38 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: lodwick

I heard Houston took someone down yesterday or a couple of days ago with an FN five-seven.


33 posted on 06/07/2005 3:30:27 PM PDT by TEXASPROUD
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To: Bacon Man; Xenalyte; Hap; humblegunner
Oh yea. The House of Bacon is very well armed.

Copy that!

34 posted on 06/07/2005 3:41:39 PM PDT by Eaker (Festive camaraderie and adrenaline addiction, with weapons and lots of ammo, leads to no good.)
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To: Ditter

"So much for being safe out in the country. I'll take my chances in the city."

No thanks. Just get you a pack of dogs, an odd assortment of firearms and target practice off the porch.


35 posted on 06/07/2005 3:44:41 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations!)
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To: Xenalyte


Every Texan is a minuteman (in the armed militia sense of the term, that is)!

I am not suprised by this...According to the FBI there's an Al-Qeada cell here as well. A heavily armed citizenry keeps the nut jobs in check, though.


36 posted on 06/07/2005 3:45:56 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: Bombardier
"I see a red sash, I kill the man wearin' it!"

Should read, 'I see a tatoo on a face, I shoot the man wearin' it.'

37 posted on 06/07/2005 3:47:11 PM PDT by monkeywrench (http://ciudadano.presidencia.gob.mx/peticion/peticion.htm -Tell Vicente)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I have a pack of dogs, an odd assortment of firearms, outside lights, a burglar alarm and a tall fence, and a back porch. Thats OK I'll stay here. ;9)


38 posted on 06/07/2005 3:51:19 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Xenalyte

I been hearing some stuff about MS 13, that the Islamo-fascists are making inroads with them. And heard rumors they're in Houston as well as most major cities.

Side note: My ex neighbor who is in law enforcement and who authors articles on teen gangs, told me, "If you ever wake up in the middle of the night and hear someone in your house you'd better PRAY it's an adult. The adult is looking for valuables and will leave you sleep without disturbance. A kid will just as soon blow your brains out (to see what they look like) than not."


39 posted on 06/07/2005 3:56:27 PM PDT by Humidston (Yo, Hitlary... BRING IT ON, CRUSTY!)
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To: Bacon Man; Xenalyte; Hap; Eaker
new stomping grounds (MS-13)

Multiple Sclerosis is terrible especially among young folks.
It affects writing skills among other things.

We should all do more.

40 posted on 06/07/2005 3:59:32 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: theinwithin

>>Dont think that you are safe because you live in NY or Mass <<

And sad irony - People in those states aren't allowed to be armed. MS 13 must be LOVING that!


41 posted on 06/07/2005 4:04:03 PM PDT by Humidston (Yo, Hitlary... BRING IT ON, CRUSTY!)
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To: All

The people need to take public gun training classes, get CCWs and actually carry their guns at all times.

Dogs and geese are excellent ideas, but keeping the guns close by is an essential element.

I don't even live there, but at night I slip my tactical light onto the rails of my Glock 17. Anyone who keeps a gun for possible late night goblins should keep a good quality flashlight with it.

Preferrably a Streamlight or Surefire.


42 posted on 06/07/2005 4:09:41 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (September 11, 2001, never forget, and never forgive.)
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To: lodwick

That was the "BLUE Sprinkle Taxins."


43 posted on 06/07/2005 4:31:56 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: oldironsides
You will be amazed at the number of burglars that will not bother with a place that has a dog or two.

This is a good idea, unless you need the target practice.

44 posted on 06/07/2005 4:39:51 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: Armedanddangerous

Doesn't a flash light mounted on your gun make you a really good target?

That is where I would aim if I was a goblin.

I prefer subtle lighting and awareness of your surroundings.


45 posted on 06/07/2005 4:41:50 PM PDT by Eaker (Festive camaraderie and adrenaline addiction, with weapons and lots of ammo, leads to no good.)
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To: Humidston

Can you post a link to some of his articles? I'd be very interested in reading some of his work.


46 posted on 06/07/2005 4:42:12 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: Eaker

You don't just turn the light on and leave it on. Most rail mounted tactical lights, mine included, have a pressure switch.

You press the switch and light up potential targets. Let off the switch, the light goes off.

Very neat setup. I scared the hell out of a black bear the other night ripping through my garbage. I stuck the Glock out the window, pressed the switch and ole boo boo must have heard his momma callin, because he lit out for the high country.


47 posted on 06/07/2005 4:50:35 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (September 11, 2001, never forget, and never forgive.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Is this Lloyd Doggett's contituency?


48 posted on 06/07/2005 4:55:41 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Armedanddangerous

Add temporary night blindness to the goblin's mounting problems.

Do you shield your eyes a bit?

Good answer, btw!


49 posted on 06/07/2005 4:56:53 PM PDT by Eaker (Festive camaraderie and adrenaline addiction, with weapons and lots of ammo, leads to no good.)
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To: Eaker

Don't need to shield my eyes...At least I haven't yet.


50 posted on 06/07/2005 4:58:41 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (September 11, 2001, never forget, and never forgive.)
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