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Police Ticket Cars In Lieu of Teens (More Insanity in Montgomery County, MD)
The Washington Post ^ | Tuesday, June 7, 2005 | Nancy Trejos and Daniel de Vise

Posted on 06/07/2005 3:21:33 PM PDT by tgslTakoma

Anna Phelan and Emily Adams wanted to end their four years at Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School with a memorable backyard graduation party.

There was a blues band, a moon bounce, a popcorn machine and a pit for making s'mores. Guests feasted on hot dogs, hamburgers and bratwurst. There was plenty of ginger ale, cranberry juice and root beer to go around. What there wasn't plenty of was alcohol.

"It was pretty low-key, and it was just sweet," Margaret Engel Adams, Emily's mother, said of the party for about 80 friends and relatives. "It was just pretty much out of Norman Rockwell."

All that changed about 9:30 p.m. Thursday, Adams said, when a Montgomery County police officer knocked on the Phelans' door, in the 4600 block of Rosedale Avenue in Bethesda, to say that someone had complained about the noise. The officer then asked Anna's mother, Kathy Phelan, if he and several other officers could give breath tests to the teenagers. She refused.

So police stationed patrol cars at each end of her street, six in all, and began giving the tests to guests as they left the party, she said. None of the teenagers tested positive for alcohol, she said.

Officers then began ticketing vehicles parked outside the Phelans' house, she said, including ones that belonged to neighbors who weren't at her party. Some vehicles were ticketed for a wheel improperly touching a curb or for extending into a driveway. Emily Adams, 18, received a $35 parking ticket; her Honda Odyssey minivan was parked directly in front of the Phelans' home.

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To: scott7278
LISTEN LIVE as WMAL listeners discuss the police harrassment story.
21 posted on 06/07/2005 3:34:09 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma

Thanks for the link -- listening now.


22 posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:28 PM PDT by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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To: scott7278

Hey, they have access to night vision goggles that they're not using anymore to catch seatbelt scofflaws.


23 posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:33 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: andyk

"Seems like you'd be able to refuse that."

You can. But, if the same as Texas, you lose your license for 90 days or, if under 18, your license until 18.

Stupid laws.


24 posted on 06/07/2005 3:36:39 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: tgslTakoma

This police force has way to many cops. I would say a 30% cut in police officers would be appropriate.


25 posted on 06/07/2005 3:37:09 PM PDT by microgood
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To: tgslTakoma

No, the other unit was on that detail. :)


26 posted on 06/07/2005 3:37:28 PM PDT by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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To: tgslTakoma

One of the officers is on next...


27 posted on 06/07/2005 3:38:39 PM PDT by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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To: dc27
"Your papers please!"

Not too far off, huh?

28 posted on 06/07/2005 3:39:31 PM PDT by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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To: tgslTakoma

Police officer (paraphrase): It's for the kids.


29 posted on 06/07/2005 3:40:23 PM PDT by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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To: tgslTakoma
Nothing Montgomery County does shocks me anymore.

Me either. and there are parts of Delaware that are acually worse........that's a reason I'm thankful to be out of there.

30 posted on 06/07/2005 3:40:39 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: tgslTakoma
Heard an interview with Anna Phelan today. She said originally the cops were going to tow all the cars way!

Never a dull moment out here.

31 posted on 06/07/2005 3:41:04 PM PDT by lizma
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To: MeanWestTexan
But, if the same as Texas, you lose your license for 90 days or, if under 18, your license until 18.

But, there's no probable cause (IMHO). This impllies that police can just wander around a city randomly asking people to take a breathalyzer.
32 posted on 06/07/2005 3:41:17 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: lizma
She said originally the cops were going to tow all the cars way!

I'll tell you what, if it had been my house, that would have been the biggest mistake they could have made.

33 posted on 06/07/2005 3:42:27 PM PDT by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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To: tgslTakoma
Assistant police chief John King says police had "some indicators" of
underage drinking at the party but they turned out to be wrong.



34 posted on 06/07/2005 3:42:43 PM PDT by oh8eleven
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To: andyk

This is all a result of the militarization of the police force.


35 posted on 06/07/2005 3:43:07 PM PDT by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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To: Nonstatist
Its easier than going into Section 8 housing in Rockville or Silver Spring and actually arresting law breakers and drug dealers.

I dealt with that in Dover, Delaware for years - I was on a first name basis with the DPD dispatchers, yet it was me that got harrassed on a regular basis by the zoning/inspections department.

I feel for the people in Montomery county - but they are the ones that need to do something about the problems.

36 posted on 06/07/2005 3:43:45 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: tgslTakoma

The actual police should get censure from conservatives on this one also. They could have told the chief to go to hell and that they would not issue tickets like this. The only reason that they did issue those tickets is to make the rest of the neighborhood hate the people that brought this all down on them, ie the neighbors who refused the police the opportunity to invade thier homes.

This strikes me as the perfect way a police state operates. Make it living hell on people who don't comply, even though they have the right not to comply. And yes they could have told the officers that they refused to take the tests, but then they would have suffered more wrath from the police. The police here should be sued by the whole neighborhood as a group.

Eventually it would work that they would have to give it up and back down. Until then, take the names of the actual ones that signed their names on a ticket and put them up on the net with their pictures for public censure. I am sure that if you do that then there will be many others out there that will recognize some of them and begin to email about mistreatment at their hands. This abuse does not begin overnight.


37 posted on 06/07/2005 3:44:17 PM PDT by TrailofTears
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To: tgslTakoma

Thanks, this officer sounds like he is in CYA mode.


38 posted on 06/07/2005 3:45:33 PM PDT by dc27
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To: scott7278
Is this one of the officers involved? What a jerk.

Hope these people had a video recorder going.

39 posted on 06/07/2005 3:47:07 PM PDT by lizma
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To: tgslTakoma

Montgomery County likely spends lots of dollars on PR to convince the kids that they are the good guys out there!

How much do you think that it will take to convince these young voters that the Polic don't need to be paid any more than they are because they don't do anything much to earn it? I think this is where the kids get the notion that the Police are out to get them rather than those who are criminals.

But watch the pro-police lobby here jump on all this as justified.


40 posted on 06/07/2005 3:47:20 PM PDT by Spirited
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