Posted on 06/08/2005 1:00:04 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
I am thoroughly disgusted with New Jersey politics.
I don't think a conservative has won for governor or U.S. senator in NJ in well over a half century, right? And that record will hold through November 2005, no mater who prevails. I would think that Corzine is unbeatable in that very liberal state.
"Well, who do you like better, Forrester or Corzine? Time to hold you nose and flip the lever next to the (R)."
Nope!
Been there, done that ... Christie Whitman ETC.
Can't do it anymore.
"Unless you are of the It-Has-To-Get-Worse-Before-It-Will-Get-Better school of thought. Of course, we just sacked our utterly corrupt Donk governor after a gay sex scandal where he was installing his Boy-Toy as head of Homeland Security. So I don't know how much worse it can get..."
I have principles and I am sick and tired of settling for less. As far as I am concerned the difference between Corsine and Forester is moot. THey're cut from the same cloth. They only vary by nano degrees.
As I said to someone else there is very little difference bewtween Corsine and this other clown.
NEITHER gets my vote.
Been there done that and I'l SICK of it.
As I said to someone else there is very little difference between Corsine and this other clown.
NEITHER gets my vote.
Been there done that and I'm SICK of it!!!!!!
What I should do is kick myself in the arse for not doing volunteer work for Shundler. I did it for Bush but I missed the boat. I got caught up in things and was totally oblivious to the primary till yesterday. So I do have some blame for myself.
Too bad Forrester doesn't have to run for re-election in the same year as the governors race.
I don't know, it doesn't sound good. Isn't Forrester the guy who couldn't beat the 'Rat ersatz candidate for Torricelli, that old fossil Louseyberg? Say hello to Gov. Corzine, I'm afraid. As an expatriate Jerseyan, I am saddened by what has befallen my home state. But it's looking like more and more of a lost cause, the 'Rats are just too firmly entrenched there.
I understand where you're coming from. Flipping the lever next to Forrester's name is not going to be easy. But I guess I knuckle under a little easier than you do, for the time being. I won't criticize your position, though.
"I don't think a conservative has won for governor or U.S. senator in NJ in well over a half century, right?"
Well I'm in the NJ-COUNTRY-CLUB-RINOS-NEED-TO-LEARN-A-LESSON-SCHOOL.
I voted twice for Christine Todd Whitman on your logic that the alternatives (in those elections, Florio and McGreevey) were worse.
Whitman then went ahead and
(1) appointed some of the worst activist Leftists we've ever seen to the NJ Supreme Court;
(2) vetoed a completely reasonable parental notification law; and
(3) messed up state finances when she had a golden opportunity to reform them.
What good did we ever get out voting for Christie Whitman, I ask you?
In retrospect I think it might actually have been better for the Dim to win, screw up royally, and end up getting the public ready to accept a real Republican. (And on a side note, that might've happened last year if we'd been allowed to have an election right after the McGreevey fiasco.)
You're right, the Democrats actually seem more entrenched in NJ right now than they do in WV!
Forrester the RINO wins. Much thanks to Lonegan and his supporters for this sad state of affairs, as Lonegan helped tip the scale in favor of the RINO Forrester instead of for Bret Schundler.
I'm all for voting principle over expedience when there are no other options, but for those Freepers who voted for Lonegan over Bret, well, now we get Forrester v. Corzine, neither of whom deserves a conservative's vote. Bret Schundler is a true conservative who didn't get the support of the horrendous NJ Republican Party machine in 2001, but he honed his message for NJ, deemphasizing social issues that the New York-Philly-New Jersey liberal media spin to scare the sheeple, and instead focusing on the property tax issue. Based on his platform, his experience in Jersey City, his personal telegenics and articulate manner of presentation, Bret Schunlder had the best chance of winning, and then actually making a difference, for conservative values in New Jersey.
Lonegan and those who voted for him killed that possibility, based on--well, what precisely? Lonegan's caveman demeanor and attitude help perpetuate the stereotype that political conservatives are inarticulate, mean-spirited, and just plain stupid. What a disaster, what a set back, for NJ conservatives.
As for the conspiracy nuts who advanced the odious arguments here on FR that Bret was a "terrorist supporter" essentially because there are Muslims in Jersey City, shame on you. I doubt that the arguments persuaded anybody to vote against Bret since they were so asinine, but it showed how many purported conservatives are Jacobin leftists at heart.
Forrester or Corzine? George Wallace said there ain't a dime's worth a difference between the Republicans and the Democrats, and here in NJ, how true that is. I see no reason at all to vote for Forrester, since RINO thieves do more damage to conservative values than the worst liberal Democrat. Christie Whitman, Donnie Di, Tom Kean, Doug Forrester-- pro-abort, anti-gun, high taxing gaggle of lefties--a pox on them all.
Weep for us in the Garden State, all you Freepers!
George C. Wallace, Sr., stayed Democrat all his life, but near the end he endorsed Robert Dole over B. Clinton, his fellow southerner. George Wallace, Jr., switched parties and has had some success in AL as a Republcian. But maybe old George, Sr., was right after all: he understood how globalist establishment types dominated both parties But usually George, Sr., came down on the liberal side, particularly after the attempt on his life.
The message must be sent to the RINO's in New Jersey, change your ways or lose my vote. I will no longer support wolves in sheep's clothing.
Unfortunately, the "Only Moderates can win in NJ" message was sent loud & clear yesterday
NJ Pubbies suck.
Please God, no! Same with Bill Pascrell.
bump for later.
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