[stuartcr]

Probably the most violent and disturbing movie I have ever seen, moreso I think, because of the time period.

[sinanju]

I always said the heart of conservatism is to see and deal with ourselves (and the world) as we really are and not as we would wish.

It is the utopians who think they can perfect humanity and create heaven on earth who end up causing far more slavery and slaughter than any barbarian.

[ClearCase_guy]

George craves Hoffman’s attention and does not understand why he would rather work rather than interact with her. To secure his regard, she even goes so far as to sabotage his efforts by changing around the mathematical signs he has written upon a blackboard.

Saw this movie years ago. Wasn't impressed, but I do remember the scene above. As I recall, the blackboard is enormous, and covered with complicated equations. His wife sneaks in and changes a plus into a minus. Later on, Dustin Hoffman walks in and starts working at his desk -- but is uncomfortable. Then he turns, faces the blackboard, and slashes down with chalk and turns the minus back into a plus.

It's hard to demonstate genius in a movie. I think this scene shows that Hoffman's character is smarter than the average bear. Nicely done.

[MEGoody]

"The movie is uncompromising and forces the audience to examine urges which they would deny having."

Or maybe they just decide that they are urges that don't have to be obeyed.

[dsc]

Are even professional writers ignorant of the basics of word usage and grammar?

"an oppressive world of men of whom they are supposedly superior."

...to whom they are superior. Things are superior *to* other things, not "of" other things.

"female longing to which no radical feminist alive would ever condone."

No, we condone things, we don't condone "to" things. Try, "...female longing *that* no radical feminist alive would ever condone."

Good grief.