Posted on 06/08/2005 7:39:02 PM PDT by wagglebee
I need to get off this thread. My wife thinks I'M looking at porn.
"Having just received her plane ticket from Los Angeles to the nation's capital..."
I've never wanted to be a airport security officer before...
I'm going to agree with you here. If he was inviting her to his own house it would be improper, but she is invited to the White House...which belongs to all of us...it's a public place.
We are all commanded to be witnesses and to share the Gospel...Dubya included. This is a perfect opportunity for him to share the Word.
Amen. Dubya would make an awesome preacher.
"Get in line. No cuts."
"I go first dammit!"
Mary has heard this arguement before.
Nothing wrong with it.
But let's remember this passage is telling Christians how to deal with those WITHIN the congregation who openly sin and revel in it.
I can't imagine any REAL Church accepting or associating with a well known, practicing porn star as a member of their congregation.
Go back to DU, where you members of the PAGAN LEFT belong.
"... paging Wilbur Mills , your Good Time is waiting in the limo..."
I'm pretty sure she can handle a long line too, I just don't want "seconds."
sin - we are all sinners - no such thing as severity of sin with God - sin is sin. BUT Christians do not choose a sinful lifestyle, and then, DEFEND IT!
She can do whatever she wants - and I DID NOT condemn her - she is condemning herself.
However, God tells us "you will know them by their fruits." And I stand on that. I never said anything about ultimate salvation - what she does in the future is up to her - another choice of her's.
When Christians (those that follow the Lord and does HIS WILL and not what we choose) - sin, they know it, the HOLY SPIRIT convicts them and they repent. She enjoys her sinful lifestyle. Big difference. She is not living a Christian lifestyle.
If you don't get that, you don't get it. That's all.
But I will point out in case there are non-Christians reading and think that her lifestyle is acceptable to God. It is not. She can pray and read the bible all she wants, that does not make a person a Christian.
I've thought about that one. No where in the Bible did I ever see Jesus invite sinners to his home. He always went to their home. I guess you could argue that the White House is more than a public place and it would be like inviting her to All of OUR homes, but I'm sort of an optimistic one.
If I were Dubya I would share the Gospel and I would do it for His glory.
"Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven" - Luke 6:37
"For what have I to do with judging those outside? Is it not those who are inside that you are to judge? God will judge those outside. "Drive out the wicked person from among you." - Corinthians 1:12-13 (Curtesy of Dave Tesla)
One can justify just about anything from Biblical verses. The verses on chooses for any particular situation tell far more about the individual making the choices than about God's intentions.
Sure, sin is sin but there IS "such thing as severity of sin with God".
We know this because God pronounces more severe penalties for more severe sins in the Bible.
BUT Christians do not choose a sinful lifestyle, and then, DEFEND IT!
Christians are quite capable of choosing to sin and then defending it.
Look at some of the sins committed by men of God in the Bible, and how they tried to defend themselves before repenting.
The New Testament is full of warnings to Christians about sin, precisely because they are capable of such things.
The idea is balance the scriptures to match God's overall intentions, instead of pulling them out of context for our own purposes.
And it isn't too difficult to see who is seeking God's true message and who is not if one has a fair knowledge of the Bible.
So if I see you do something habitually that is sin (gossip, pride, boasting, gluttony etc) I can safely make the judgment that you are unrepentant and therefore not a Christian.
She enjoys her sinful lifestyle. Big difference.
What person, Christian or non-Christian doesn't enjoy a particular vice they are involved with?
She is not living a Christian lifestyle.
I said the same thing in my post. We can judge what fits a Christian lifestyle. But we cannot with all certainty judge the person as non-Christian in their heart.
No but you can't allow the truth to obstruct a Moral Crusade
Why would I--conservative atheist--want to go to where more of you theosocialists hang out, loving to self-righteously tell others how you want to run their lives?
Well, okay...some of those pagan chicks can be a blast, especially dancing nekkid in the moonlight...
</sarc>
I am curious where it is, Biblically, that people justify condemning this woman. I'm curious how much of our lines of morality come from current social mores, and not from actual Biblical directives. Is it purely from Paul's discussion of better to marry than to burn? Unfortunately, I can't seem to get answers...though I have learned how there were many saints, ancestors of Jesus, etc., were adulterers.
What do you mean she didn't? I have the video right on my puter, and she did, indeed, joke about the President trying to "milk" a male horse.
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