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Live Aid: A defining moment?
IU Media Relations ^ | 6/9/05 | Glenn Gass

Posted on 06/09/2005 9:25:29 AM PDT by qam1

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- Woodstock. The Monterey Pop Festival. The Beatles on Ed Sullivan.

They are regarded as defining moments both in the history of rock 'n' roll and for the generations who experienced them. But what about Live Aid, the charity concert that will celebrate its 20th anniversary next month and has spawned a sequel, Live 8, to be held on July 2? Did Live Aid transcend the actual performances like its predecessors? Does it still resonate like those events?

Perhaps the better, more telling question is: Do you remember where you were during -- Live Aid?

Indiana University Professor of Music Glenn Gass, who founded the first for-credit course on the history of rock 'n' roll at any college or conservatory, remembers where he was: frantically videotaping the Philadelphia and London concerts in hopes of having some memorable footage to show his students. He hasn't played clips from Live Aid for many years, though, and he believes the resonance of the event faded long ago, right along with the concert's many one-hit-wonder artists.

"I think (Live Aid) had a staged feel to it and lacked the legendary big moments -- like Jimi Hendrix playing The Star-Spangled Banner -- that have survived as landmark statements that reflected the times and sensibilities of the artists and audience," Gass said. "For better or worse, the cause (famine relief in Ethiopia) fades from view depressingly quickly, and you are left with the concert itself. You simply don't see much footage from Live Aid on the rock documentaries. It has not been kept alive the way Woodstock and the Monterey Pop Festival have been.

"Part of that is due to the fact that so many of the artists, especially at Monterey, were young, new and truly explosive," he said. And many of them died early, he added, citing Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Otis Redding. "The new artists who played Live Aid simply haven't grown much in stature, to say the least. The older ones were already elder statesmen by then, and the reaction to them was fawning to the point of embarrassment."

Though Gass commends the charitable impulse behind Live Aid and its performers' willingness to use their popularity for a good cause, he feels the corporate presentation of the event put it in a lesser league than "true moments" like the Beatles' Sullivan debut in 1964, the Monterey Pop Festival, which kicked off 1967's Summer of Love, and 1969's Woodstock concert.

"It shows the difference between 1969 and 1985," Gass said. "The baby boom radical freaks became the core yuppie market for Madison Avenue, with the rock songs and artists from their youth the most immediate emotional tug on the heartstrings -- and purse strings."

Whether the upcoming Live 8 event will measure up to rock's grandest moments remains to be seen. Its purpose is to highlight the problem of global poverty. Bono, lead singer for the rock band U2, has said the concert will be "a defining moment for our generation."

But the original Live Aid didn't quite get there, according to Gass. Blame the packaging and the quality of the music, he said. Blame the changing times, too.

"I suppose Live Aid was a significant uniting event for the first MTV generation, but somehow that lacks a certain romance," he said. "Woodstock seemed like an almost heroic event, not because of the artists, but because it demonstrated just how big the counterculture had become. As Neil Young said, 'it showed just how many of us there were.' What would a similar statement about Live Aid mean? What would 'us' mean in 1985? The unity of the rock audience was long gone by the middle of the Reagan years."

Gass teaches a series of classes that he developed on the history of rock music, as well as a class on the music of the Beatles. He also teaches an overseas study program, "The Beatles in London," which includes lectures, Beatles-related walking tours, subway journeys, bus trips, movies, videos and a six-day trip to Liverpool, England.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: genx; live8; liveaid; shutupandsing

1 posted on 06/09/2005 9:25:29 AM PDT by qam1
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2 posted on 06/09/2005 9:26:41 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

I vaguely remember the first one. It wasn't really high on my to do list (I was 11).

The only thing I recall was Phil Collins playing at both concerts, and I think I only know that as trivia, not an actual memory.


3 posted on 06/09/2005 9:31:31 AM PDT by Hoodlum91 (The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind. - Humphrey Bogart)
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To: qam1
I remember clearly, I was in Germany, making a boot leg of the recording, trying to figure out what these white-breads were doing trying to help communist regime kill more of their people.

Also was thinking how do you think they know it is xmas become an anthem for supporting a bunch of communists/islamists killing a bunch of animists and some Jews?

4 posted on 06/09/2005 9:37:19 AM PDT by dts32041 (Robin Hood, stealing from the government and giving back to tax payer. Where is he today?)
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To: qam1

I remember what I was doing during live aid. Her name was Becky and I did her about 5 times. Damn I miss the eighties.


5 posted on 06/09/2005 9:40:22 AM PDT by rightandproudofit
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To: Hoodlum91

I remember working for Dominoes Pizza at the time...and ever time I delivered a pizza, everyone was watching that thing....


6 posted on 06/09/2005 9:43:00 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Hoodlum91

Yes, I was 10. I was probably playing Nintendo, shooting squirt guns, swimming, or hiking in the woods behind my house... Something like that.


7 posted on 06/09/2005 9:46:02 AM PDT by raivyn (I don't know what you just said, but you special!)
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To: raivyn

Oops, I was 9, but my activities were probably the same!


8 posted on 06/09/2005 9:46:33 AM PDT by raivyn (I don't know what you just said, but you special!)
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To: qam1
I remember watching Live Aid in 1985. During a historic performance by The Who the camera kept cutting over to a swaying Martha Quinn. During the U2 performance, they showed Alan Hunter mugging for the camera.

Ridiculous.


9 posted on 06/09/2005 9:48:09 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: qam1
live aid led to a million "collaborations" between all sorts of musicians, usually to the detriment of their careers and to the musical atmosphere as a whole


10 posted on 06/09/2005 9:48:19 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Look! Jimmy Carter! History's greatest monster!)
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To: raivyn; Hoodlum91

There are a bunh of us younguns on FR. I was 14, wearing my parachute pants to school. Man, I looked cool!!!


11 posted on 06/09/2005 9:48:43 AM PDT by hoppity
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To: dts32041

Hey keep trying to figure it out. Bono now has a bunch of celebs together trying to come up with another plan to end African hunger and abuse.

Life goes on...........


12 posted on 06/09/2005 9:50:14 AM PDT by Dazedcat
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To: Hoodlum91
The only thing I recall was Phil Collins playing at both concerts, and I think I only know that as trivia, not an actual memory.

I was 15 and that's about the same I remember (Couldn't tell you what songs he sung if my life depended on it),

Well that and Jimmy Page bombed on the solo to Stairway to Heaven

13 posted on 06/09/2005 9:50:17 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: rightandproudofit

"I remember what I was doing during live aid. Her name was Becky and I did her about 5 times. Damn I miss the eighties."

My girlfriend(soon to be ex in about 5 minutes) came to my house with tickets and a cooler full of food and beverages.
She said, "guess what?" I said what? She said we were going to philly to see Live Aid. I said to go without me and gave her back her clothes and TV set.

I sat in the Air Conditioning and watched it on TV.


14 posted on 06/09/2005 9:53:04 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: qam1
I give up...why is it called Live 8?
15 posted on 06/09/2005 9:55:33 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: hoppity
Oh, my friend's Mom made us some parachute pants just like the ones Vanilla Ice wore on the "Ice, Ice, Baby" video!

We were way cool!

16 posted on 06/09/2005 9:56:50 AM PDT by raivyn (I don't know what you just said, but you special!)
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To: hoppity
There are a bunh of us younguns on FR. I was 14, wearing my parachute pants to school. Man, I looked cool!!!

Me too.


17 posted on 06/09/2005 10:00:43 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: raivyn
Go Bugle Boy!!!!
18 posted on 06/09/2005 10:02:09 AM PDT by hoppity
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To: GSWarrior

I believe because they are having it during the G8 summit as a protest.


19 posted on 06/09/2005 10:05:28 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: SkyPilot
You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills... Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills.
20 posted on 06/09/2005 10:06:00 AM PDT by hoppity
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To: qam1

I've always considered Woodstock to be the most bogus event of our generation.


21 posted on 06/09/2005 10:14:16 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: qam1

I was mid-20's and living the carefree bachelor life. The apartment I lived in then was in a complex that had a parking lot surrounded by apartment buildings. So many people were watching and piping it through their stereos that we could all stand in the parking lot and live it up and hear it just fine.

That being said, I remember not caring a whole lot about seeing most of the acts - just The Who and the Zeppelin reunion stand out.


22 posted on 06/09/2005 10:18:17 AM PDT by day10 (Rules cannot substitute for character.)
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To: qam1

I think when Banana Ramam took the stage... That was the defining moment for me.
Or maybe Corey Hart


23 posted on 06/09/2005 10:49:37 AM PDT by Holicheese (Timmy like windmills!)
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To: hoppity
OMG! where did you dig up that!

Remember Skidz?

24 posted on 06/09/2005 10:51:33 AM PDT by raivyn (I don't know what you just said, but you special!)
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To: qam1
I remember ignoring the concert, for the most part, and opting to watch the Olympics instead. Aunt Joan's house in Hamburg, NY.

"There won't be snow in Africa this Christmastime...

LOL

25 posted on 06/09/2005 11:19:08 AM PDT by grellis (Klezmer! Klezmer! Klezmer!)
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To: qam1
Mark Steyn has the lowdown on the trendy leftists who think Africa's biggest problem is western stinginess rather than the hopeless corruption of that continent's governments.
26 posted on 06/09/2005 12:34:09 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: qam1

Where was I during Live Aid? In a hospital bed, suffering from unbearable, unknown-cause headaches. I do remember Queen playing an awesome, show-stealing set, though.


27 posted on 06/09/2005 12:53:24 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: qam1

I was 11 that summer and I remember being thoroughly disappointed that the event did not appear to live up to the hype. I had just started paying attention to music within the past year and actually liked "We Are the World" the first 150 times I heard it. It was fun to try and pick out the different voices on it. (We did not have cable, let alone MTV, until my mother finally gave up in 87.)


28 posted on 06/09/2005 1:50:06 PM PDT by GoBucks2002 (MSM now stands for "Muslim Sympathizing Media." http://yankeered.blog.com)
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To: SkyPilot

Same memories of that crap. It got so bad we had more fun goofing on the MTV idiots trying to be cool than listening to the music.


29 posted on 06/09/2005 2:01:35 PM PDT by Corporate Law (<>< -- Xavier Basketball - Perennial Slayer of #1 Ranked Teams)
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To: qam1
You simply don't see much footage from Live Aid on the rock documentaries. It has not been kept alive the way Woodstock and the Monterey Pop Festival have been.

Because Babyboomers control the MSM and unless they care about it, they don't think the rest of us do.

31 posted on 06/09/2005 2:23:57 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Read the red! www.readthered.com)
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"Woodstock seemed like an almost heroic event, not because of the artists, but because it demonstrated just how big the counterculture had become. As Neil Young said, 'it showed just how many of us there were.' What would a similar statement about Live Aid mean? What would 'us' mean in 1985? The unity of the rock audience was long gone by the middle of the Reagan years."

Just how big the counterculture had become? I think everyone from the counterculture was at Woodstock. That would mean the other 195,500,000 citizens of the U.S. were not part of the "counterculture". Not very big, just really loud and annoying, kind of like they are now. As for the rock audience not having Unity in the Middle of the Reagan years, weren't their something on the number of 2 million at live aid? I would say that's a larger unity than Woodstock. And Simon and Garfunkel's concert in the Park drew over a million. Woodstock only defined how unhealthy and unstable the "counterculture" was by this quote: "don't take the brown acid." How sad.
32 posted on 06/09/2005 4:49:30 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: qam1

Our defining moment(s) was MTV.
Whether they want to admit it or not, our generation spawned a life-alteration for performers and consumers that altered music forever.
Think Janis Joplin would be a singer if there was MTV?


33 posted on 06/09/2005 4:53:47 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: dts32041

LOL!
I got that "Christmas" thang, as well.
If it was meant as irony, it didn't come off that way.
I love the song, but I thought the writers were ignorant.

I was at my senior class picnic when it was on - we listened to it on the radio for a bit - mostly laughed about MaDonna keeping her jacket on the whole time she was with the Thompson Twins because the nudes of her had just shown up in Playboy. She actually said, "I'm not taking sh&t off today because you'll hold it against me in ten years." Right. Her faux modesty was even over-produced.


34 posted on 06/09/2005 4:57:34 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: phoenix0468

actually I may be getting the live aid concert mixed up with the one that was in California in the late '80's. What was that one called?


35 posted on 06/09/2005 5:03:06 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468

It was either the US Festival or Yes Festival from what I recall. I saw a bootleg DVD in a record store about six months ago with the performance of the band Triumph at that concert. The guitarist or singer (or whatever he was) of that band was playing at a venue across the street from the store in the next week, hence putting the DVD up on the counter.


36 posted on 06/10/2005 4:35:38 AM PDT by Corporate Law (<>< -- Xavier Basketball - Perennial Slayer of #1 Ranked Teams)
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To: GSWarrior
"I give up...why is it called Live 8?"

Considering it's political tones it'd be more aptly named Live H8.

37 posted on 06/10/2005 4:47:02 AM PDT by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: qam1
Woodstock. The Monterey Pop Festival. The Beatles on Ed Sullivan.

Saw them all.

Do you remember where you were during -- Live Aid?

Never heard of it. What is it?

38 posted on 06/10/2005 4:50:56 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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